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To: TheOldLady
landlord who let your barn collapse on your property. That is totally messed up.

Agree. Before it collapsed it was a place to store stuff. Even with the leaky roof (the primary causative agent of the collapse due to many years of band-aid fixes and then no fixes instead of replacement) there were enough dry spots under the roof that much of the area was usable. And a sheltered place to feed the 'barn cats' who provide rodent control.

All that's there now after they 'cleaned' it up is the fieldstone walls from the late 1800's that are about 12-14 inches thick. Here's what it looked like right after the collapse.

On that other subject, you know, the green and yellow Deerething.. it started today. Of course it would. I have no solidified glowbull warmthing to remove today.

I'm even more inclined now to think I have a bad/corroded switch/contact in the electrical side. All that's left of the original circuit (the starter was removed at an unknown point in its past - I am at minimum the second owner. Could be more previous considering its age) is the circuit that 'grounds' the magneto to allow it to create a spark. When it's going to start, a yank on the rope produces one of those internal combustion engine sounds of life even without priming it.

When it is not going to start, like the other day, I get no puffs, putts, burps, or any sound of life from a yank on the rope. It just sits there looking all green and yellow.

With a smirk slightly visible just under its auger...

2,916 posted on 12/31/2013 1:56:08 PM PST by NoCmpromiz (John 14:6 is a non-pluralistic comment.)
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To: NoCmpromiz

I’d call that a pretty comprehensive collapse.


2,917 posted on 12/31/2013 1:58:51 PM PST by Tax-chick (The superpowers ascribed to "feminists" make me wish I was one.)
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To: NoCmpromiz

I can’t really say, but that doesn’t look from these angles as though it’s a timber-framed barn.

While it would be cool to go with timber-framing, if repairing that structure were my project, I’d consider doing it this way:

Take three regular truss frames, like you’d see on a twenty-four foot span on a tract house, and make them one. One in the center, of course, and two to act like legs for the center one.

This automatically makes a gambrel-roof shape, and although it’s a bit wasteful of material, it’s material that should be available widely and on short order.

This design has the advantage of being stable on two feet, which would stand on the existing walls. It can also be set up by a small crew of men. Put up the trusses, sheath them with plywood, and then cover with a metal roof.

I would, however, once the three-made-one were erected, put additional bracing under the center span to wall portions. This could be straight two-by material, to strengthen the load ability. All this would make a really rigid, easily built barn structure.

You would also have to separately frame the floor of the second or above floors. The open space of this kind of plan is very large, and it covers the barn floor rather quickly.

If you can find someone willing to fund the effort, this could be the way to get it done.


2,945 posted on 12/31/2013 2:54:50 PM PST by NicknamedBob (If you voted for 0bama to show that you're not a racist, you're a racist. -- NicknamedMike)
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To: NoCmpromiz

Goodness gracious! That’s just terrible.

Here we have seen collapsed barns with signs out front, “Barn for sale.”

Of course, they’re selling the useable wood and other components, but
the first time we saw such a thing, we were nonplussed.

Our Deere has not started smirking at Bryan just yet. Here’s hoping
that it never does, or not for a long time, at least.


2,989 posted on 12/31/2013 8:48:44 PM PST by TheOldLady
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