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To: Farmer Dean

I don’t know much about rifles but I’m inheriting a 30/30 and was wondering how that compared to a .308. I have an AR 15 lower receiver coming and can’t wait to build something with it. While I’ve never shot an AR, how does that compare to a 30/30 in stopping power?


11 posted on 11/06/2013 12:42:23 PM PST by scripter
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To: scripter

What are you planning on stopping?


16 posted on 11/06/2013 12:50:18 PM PST by mad_as_he$$
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To: scripter

Put a set of peep sights on that 30-30 and use it.


17 posted on 11/06/2013 12:50:29 PM PST by Elderberry
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The .30-.30 is less potent than a .308 but not by much. The benefit comes in the flatter trajectory. The .30-.30 has more drop down range.

Comparison of 5.56 and .308 ballistics:

Cartridge Model Cartridge size Cartridge weight Bullet weight Velocity Energy
5.56mm NATO M855[55] 5.56×45mm 12.31 g (190 gr) 4.02 g (62 gr) 945.5 m/s (3,100 ft/s)[56] 1,797 J[57]
7.62mm NATO M80[58] 7.62×51mm 25.40 g (392 gr) 9.33 g (147 gr) 838.0 m/s (2,749 ft/s)[58] 3,275 J


20 posted on 11/06/2013 12:51:27 PM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: scripter

In answer to the original question, it’s hard to go to far wrong with a Savage in .308
“I’m inheriting a 30/30 and was wondering how that compared to a .308”
A 30/30 is less powerfull than a .308. Roughly the same bullet, fired at a lower velocity.
“While I’ve never shot an AR, how does that compare to a 30/30 in stopping power?”
An AR can be built in a lot of calibers. .300 AAC is roughly equivalent to 30/30 in stopping power


22 posted on 11/06/2013 12:52:21 PM PST by thorvaldr
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While I’ve never shot an AR, how does that compare to a 30/30 in stopping power?

I used to own both, before that terrible boating accident...

What are you planning to stop?

26 posted on 11/06/2013 12:54:39 PM PST by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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Better:

Cartridge Bullet weight Velocity (muzzle) Energy (muzzle)
5.56 62 gr 3,100 fps 1,797 J
.308 147 gr 2,749 fps 3,275 J


27 posted on 11/06/2013 12:55:29 PM PST by Resolute Conservative
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The 30-30 has the same ballistics as the russian 7.62 X 39. Plenty adequate for eastern whitetail.

The AR in 223 chamberings is a varmint round, not a big game round. The 30-30 in 170 gr and heavier is used for eastern black bear , do not try that with your average 223 AR.


56 posted on 11/06/2013 1:21:48 PM PST by wrench
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My vote for 30-30 ammo:

Has polymer tips that won't affect the primer of the next cartridge in the magazine.

87 posted on 11/06/2013 1:58:47 PM PST by Rio (Proud resident of the State of Jefferson)
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88 posted on 11/06/2013 2:03:36 PM PST by ez (Muslims do not play well with others.)
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A .223 is not adequate for deer.I would say that a 30/30 has about twice the killing power on medium game. The .308 has higher velocity and energy than a 30/30,plus a .308 can use all types of bullets where a 30/30 must use round nose because of the tubular magazine.
124 posted on 11/06/2013 3:51:25 PM PST by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: scripter

If you’re going to hunt something other than hogs or coyotes with your AR, you’ll probably want to go with a 6.5mm Grendel or 6.8mm Rem. SPC upper.


159 posted on 11/06/2013 10:19:16 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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