[wrench]

The 30-30 has the same ballistics as the russian 7.62 X 39. Plenty adequate for eastern whitetail.

The AR in 223 chamberings is a varmint round, not a big game round. The 30-30 in 170 gr and heavier is used for eastern black bear , do not try that with your average 223 AR.

[scripter]

Thanks, this is all very helpful.