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1 posted on 10/19/2013 10:35:41 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: lee martell

Bump


2 posted on 10/19/2013 10:39:48 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: lee martell

Today’s Republican Party is yesterday’s Democratic Party, but without balls or a spine. I went Libertarian last November and have no regrets.


3 posted on 10/19/2013 10:41:02 PM PDT by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Progressives spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: lee martell

There ya go.


4 posted on 10/19/2013 10:41:25 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: lee martell

If you are a social liberal, but like conservative economic positions and like the conservative position of limited government, but can’t realize that social liberalism makes economic conservatism impossible, then libertarianism is for you.


5 posted on 10/19/2013 10:44:01 PM PDT by ansel12 (Don't be eyeballing those distant mountains boy, those are on federal land, and closed.)
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To: lee martell

Great post Lee! :-)


6 posted on 10/19/2013 10:45:22 PM PDT by Bobalu (Bobo the Wonder Marxist leads Operation Rodeo Clown against Syria)
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To: lee martell

Tiny picky point. That would be innumerable, not enumerable, nattering nabobs. (Well, to God they’re enumerable. But we take this as your point of view :-)

Anyhow, nice account. Sometimes it does dawn on Democrats-by-habit what stinkers they’ve been in bed with. Now sometimes even blind pigs get acorns, and a Democrat has been known to do decent things once in a while. But a party that since antebellum times has been bent on the dishonoring of humanity, is not exactly begging for God’s blessings. It’s not that the Republicans are so wonderful but that the Democrats have so far managed to be worse.


7 posted on 10/19/2013 10:50:42 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: lee martell

I’ve got a very similar history to yours, Lee, with the exception that my parents’ generation were the first to go Democrat in my family.

Like lots of Dems, I grew up thinking that that was the natural, default position of normal, decent American folks. It took some signature events in my own life to wake me to the fact that the Democrat party didn’t really stand for anything they claimed to, and that the Republicans were not the evil money-motivated monsters I’d been led to believe they were my whole life.

In fact, when I decided to step outside my lifelong conditioning and investigate the truth of American politics for myself, I was astonished to discover that I’d had things completely backwards for much of my life.

It didn’t take me long to realign my political allegiance, but even deeper than that, I felt a sense of vindication, because I really hadn’t changed. I’d always believed in the things that the Republican party (nominally) stood for. It was more that I’d broken my way out of a mental cocoon constructed of lies, which were designed to get me to support the destruction of everything I cherish and believe in.

In short, I’d found my way home to the truth. My truth.


29 posted on 10/19/2013 11:37:57 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: lee martell

Well, the libertarians are against any war where America defends herself, from Iraq to Afghanistan to Iran, and I never saw any anti-war demonstrations against Syria or Libya or helping the Ikwahn in Egypt, either.

Libertarians are Adam Smith Democrats, no other difference matters, they are left wing moralists who want to see the Christian morality destroyed in America.

They are anti-Semitic Jew haters and Islam defenders. They want legal dope, legal hookers and outlawed national defense and open borders.

They are peace Nazis.

On a few website bulletin boards, I have used the term PEACE NAZI to describe the peace movement in general, and one person asked me for an explanation as to what the term means and why I say it. Here is my answer:

It is intentionally derogatory, and I use it because I believe it has to be said.

It has to do with the foundation of the PEACE movement in the US and abroad and their Communist foundation, and how the majority of the signs held and slogans chanted are not about peace or genuine concern for the people of two warring countries, it is about the anti-American attitudes and the violence-inducing signs and slogans calling for violence against American Troops and President Bush.

Carrying signs calling on troops to kill their officers, to bomb Texas, for Bush to choke on a pretzel and die, for troops to shoot their officers, signs that call for communist revolution, starting fights with people who disagree with you while carrying a peace sign, trying to steal my money in Boston while carrying a peace sign and then telling me because you were shamed into giving back the money that means you are ok after all...

Things like that.

I will NOT stop using it. It is intended to make the peace protestor think.

After all the horrors we found in Iraq, you should all be thankful we went in and invaded to remove that madman. Yet, the mantra has changed, it is now against occupation and most recently a call for early withdrawl without any victory!

Repeatedly, information comes out of Iraq proving the terrorist connections of Saddam Hussein and Al-Qaeda.

Still, not one PEACE NAZI has apologized and admitted we were right. All they did is complain that a people that were under slavery for 30 years were looting after Saddam was overthrown, and who do they blame? Why the US!! We did nothing to stop it! Maybe because we stayed out of the crowd because the PEACE NAZIS would have complained we didn’t let them vent their anger??

(As a side note, people who are now called PEACE NAZIS didn’t call on the LAPD or Federal Troops to stop the LA riots after the Rodney King riots, did they? They told us all to step back and let them vent their anger, yet all of a sudden, we were supposed to go in and use force to stop rioters in Iraq?)

And to top it off, we are flushing out the terrorists in places like Fallujah, the places where the Murderous Mullahs all take refuge, and the PEACE NAZIS have not ONCE held a rally to decry the beheadings of Americans or Iraqi CARE workers! Not one PEACE NAZI rally held to call for justice for the Killers of Daniel Pearl or any foreigner killed in Iraq!

We never intended to occupy a country like SYRIA had the last 20 years, and where were the PEACE NAZIS and their signs calling on SYRIA to leave Lebanon? They are non existent. The Syrians killed tens of thousands, chasing little children into bedrooms and shooting them point blank.

Did you know there was a Christian Community in Beirut before 1985? Now, they are almost either all killed or fled from the Syrian backed Junta, and not a peep from the PEACE NAZIS, only against American forces sent to Beirut to keep peace. Why aren’t the PEACE NAZIS arguing for the return of the Christian Community back to Beirut where they lived for 2 Millennium?

Where were the PEACE NAZIS when Israel was blockaded in 1967?
Where were the PEACE NAZIS when Israel was attacked on her Holy Day of Yom Kippur in 1973?
Where were the PEACE NAZIS when the PLO was shelling Katyusha rockets into Israel in 1982?

Oh, Yeah, I remember, they were telling Israel to stop defending themselves!

In fact, there is not a single country that we ever went to war with that we stayed as the governing power for more than 10 years! We always returned it to the people.

And that brings up another point: PEACE NAZIS are NOT against war, they are against wars that the US is engaged in to overthrow pro-Communist or PRO-radical Islamic regimes or PRO-Maoist/PRO-Stalinist regimes.

My point here, is simple: These COMMIES are not for peace. If they were, they would have been screaming about Clinton killing innocents to keep his sexual scandals off the tv;

they would have been screaming for the Palestinian Liberation Organization to stop killing Jews;

they would have been screaming for Hamas and Islamic Jihad to stop killing Jews;

they would have been screaming for the Hutus and Tutsis to make peace;

they would have been screaming for that madman Saddam to stop killing Kurds or Iranians;

they would have been screaming for the Turks to stop killing Kurds or Greeks;

they would have been screaming for the Chinese to stop killing Vietnamese in 1982;

they would have been screaming for the Angolan Army to stop killing with the help of the Cuban Army in the 1980’s;

they would have been screaming for the Muslims to stop killing and beheading school age children and other Christians in Indonesia, Malaysia, and China and North Korea;

They would have been screaming for the Sudanese to stop the torture and slave trade which continues today in Darfur;

They would have been screaming when the Syrians invaded Lebanon in 1985 and have continued an occupation of Lebanon since the 1980’s;

They would have been screaming when Pol Pot started a genocide in 1975;

They would be screaming now about Mugabe killing all the white farmers in Africa in Zimbabwe;

They would have been screaming at the murders caused by the African National Congress and their necklacing of prisoners and at Winnie Mandela who was convicted of murder, yet the communists are silent;

They would have been screaming about Tiananmen Square, but they are silent;

They would have been screaming about the repression in Cuba and why so many people have chosen to flee in rickety little boats, but instead they lionize that dictator, Castro;

They would have been screaming about the invasion of South Vietnam in 1975 where the north started a genocide campaign in direct violation of the Paris Peace Accords of 1973 and caused over 2 million Vietnamese to flee in little boats that got picked up by ships like the one I was on in 1981;

They would be screaming at the Palestinians for their suicide bombings that intentionally target innocent school age children;

They would be screaming at the Palestinians for their suicide bombings that intentionally target innocent people on buses, or pizza parlors, or weddings, or wheel-chair bound invalids on cruise ships, or Olympic hotels;

They would have been screaming at the rioters in France, except Peace-Nazis do not scream when Muslims kill people or destroy things.

Except, the only time they scream is when the US is at war against a tyrant who is support by Russia or France.

In much of the world, the antics and policies of these PEACE NAZIS would result in jail – or worse. Cuba, China and many socialist countries routinely eliminate protests – and protesters – against the government and its leaders. It seems ironic that the ultimate goal of these protesters is to transform America into the kind of government that tolerates no dissent.

And since NAZI is one of the most vile insults you can give someone in our last two generations, I call them PEACE NAZIS, for they are not for peace, they are for war, they are for the overthrow of my country and into communism and anarchy, and they are a violent bunch who base their foundation on lies and the telling of lies and the repeating of lies.


32 posted on 10/20/2013 4:15:11 AM PDT by RaceBannon (Lk 16:31 And he said unto him If they hear not Moses and the prophets neither will theybe persuaded)
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To: lee martell

in the republican party you have republicans and you have republican conservatives... 2 different mindsets..

in the libertarian party. you have big L libertarians (ron paul nut jobs) and small l libertarians (hard right leaning conservatives)..

if i have to choose between a platform I agree with (republican) only to have that platform trashed upon arrival in washington, or a platform that i do not agree with 100%, but know that this platform will be adhered to upon arrival in washington (libertarians) i will choose integrity over liars every time..

i would rather work to change the platform of those that tell the truth and do what they say then to even give the time of day to a group of liars...

i start with integrity, and the pubs have none..


35 posted on 10/20/2013 4:40:46 AM PDT by joe fonebone (a socialist is just a juvenile communist)
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