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To: lbryce

As a science teacher I would take my students out one night and tell them what they see in the sky is not actually there. And, as they see it, was never what they see.

Simply because the light that left the stars left them millions of years ago and what they are seeing is what was there long ago.

But the whole collective picture, as a whole, was never there. As they see it as a whole. Because the light left different stars at different times. So what they are seeing in one star left 4 million years ago - another star where it was 10 million years ago - and so on for each of the millions of stars they see. Over that time, the stars have moved. In relation to one another.

Mind-boggling. When trying to comprehend the vastness of space & time - and our actual inability to comprehend it - should humble every man who thinks he is something or knows something. In comparison to all that is out there - we know nothing. How arrogant for us to think we know a lot.

Any man who can begin to study the vastness of space & time - or the complexity of the human body & brain - and not believe in God - is a fool. An arrogant fool.


9 posted on 09/30/2013 5:41:57 AM PDT by Arlis (.)
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To: Arlis

Technically, those stars which are individually discernible to the human eye are unlikely to be even 2000 ly distant.


12 posted on 09/30/2013 6:39:47 AM PDT by RingerSIX (My wife and I took an AIDS vaccine that they offer down at our Church.)
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To: Arlis
One small correction, the Milky Way is 100,000 light years (LY) in diameter. Earth is about 30,000 LY from the center of the milky way. So the furest star one might be able to see with the naked eye (or even a pretty good telescope) would be 80,000 LY since it is not possible to see stars in other galaxies without a truly great instrument. (Think Hubble, Teck). Now one can see nearby galaxies, as a weak smudge of light. So yeah it is possible to look a few million years into the past as one looks at say the Andromeda galaxy. And there is of course the occasional Super Nova which can be really far away and visible. But not stars since all the stars we can see are in our own Milky Way.

Deneb is one of the most distant stars you will see with your eye alone. That’s because it’s one of the most luminous stars in the Milky Way galaxy. The exact distance to Deneb is unclear, with estimates ranging from about 1,425 light-years to perhaps as much as 7,000 light-years. Whatever its exact distance, when you gaze at Deneb, know that you are gazing across thousands of light-years of space.

19 posted on 09/30/2013 7:54:19 AM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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