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"Self-sufficiency means freedom. When you can feed yourself, clothe yourself, shelter yourself, and protect yourself, you are far less likely to need to cede your freedoms in order to stay alive. And in a police state that is frantically trying to withdraw our constitutional rights, this just won’t do. They need leverage."

You either prepare and stand on your own beholden to no one or you become dependent on others to provide your basic needs and become thier ‘serf’.

Me I don’t want to be beholden to anyone for providing what is needed for me and mine. I certainly don’t want to have to kiss some ‘gubberment’ third class bureaucratic's behind in an effort to get some help from them.

I certainly don’t want some ‘jack booted’ thug herding me in line and telling me where to stand, sit, eat or sleep.

And last but not least I don’t want to be shut up in with a bunch of ‘zombies’ and have to worry about not only trying to get basic necessities but having to fight to keep what I manage to get or becoming their 'punching bag' so they can see how much they can make me bleed.

1 posted on 09/10/2013 4:01:38 PM PDT by Kartographer
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

Preppers’ PING!!


2 posted on 09/10/2013 4:02:05 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer
Alas, Brave New Babylon

(link to the Free Republic thread)


3 posted on 09/10/2013 4:05:07 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Kartographer

In the event of a SHTF event where I live, nothing bad is going to happen (to me) within about a three hundred yard radius.


4 posted on 09/10/2013 4:07:21 PM PDT by Hardastarboard (Buck Off, Bronco Bama)
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To: Kartographer

I don’t think anyone knows exactly what will happen and what the response will be to whatever it is.

Having said that, it is better to be prepared and not need it than to not be prepared and not have anything.


5 posted on 09/10/2013 4:08:15 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: Kartographer

Sept 11 2001

People inside WTC/Pentagon did not panic, there was no pushing or shoving others out of the way

Injures/handicapped were assisted out of the buildings

Others ran in to help the Fire/rescue responders

Afterwards people came and donated all they could in terms of time and money


6 posted on 09/10/2013 4:11:28 PM PDT by njslim (St)
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To: Kartographer

Just some thoughts that come to mind.

1. Be as prepared as you can be.

2. Expect to be the one your family and friends coalesce around. You’ll have to be the calming force.

3. Keep what you have very low profile both from people who don’t need to know and from government. Dress down. Don’t brag or talk too much about what you’ve got.

4. A parallel economy will develop and the new reality will look like the third world, but people do survive in the third world. You just have to have what it takes to survive the transition, and skills to trade in the new parallel economy that is the real economy. Be prepared to build and defend the world you want to live in.

5. In the meantime, look up. Fortune favors the brave and determined.


12 posted on 09/10/2013 4:25:30 PM PDT by marron
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To: Kartographer

These posts have a lot of good information but there is no one size fits all. Most is written for city folks which only applies to half the population and landmass. We all are different and will have to develop different methods. We will not be perfectly equipped for problems.


14 posted on 09/10/2013 4:28:29 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: Kartographer

George Hanson: You know, this used to be a helluva good country. I can’t understand what’s gone wrong with it.

Billy: Man, everybody got chicken, that’s what happened. Hey, we can’t even get into like, a second-rate hotel, I mean, a second-rate motel, you dig? They think we’re gonna cut their throat or somethin’. They’re scared, man.

George Hanson: They’re not scared of you. They’re scared of what you represent to ‘em.

Billy: Hey, man. All we represent to them, man, is somebody who needs a haircut.

George Hanson: Oh, no. What you represent to them is freedom.

Billy: What the hell is wrong with freedom? That’s what it’s all about.

George Hanson: Oh, yeah, that’s right. That’s what’s it’s all about, all right. But talkin’ about it and bein’ it, that’s two different things. I mean, it’s real hard to be free when you are bought and sold in the marketplace. Of course, don’t ever tell anybody that they’re not free, ‘cause then they’re gonna get real busy killin’ and maimin’ to prove to you that they are. Oh, yeah, they’re gonna talk to you, and talk to you, and talk to you about individual freedom. But they see a free individual, it’s gonna scare ‘em.

Billy: Well, it don’t make ‘em runnin’ scared.

George Hanson: No, it makes ‘em dangerous. Buh, neh! Neh! Neh! Neh! Swamp!


16 posted on 09/10/2013 4:43:27 PM PDT by Chuckster (The longer I live the less I care about what you think.)
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I was recently doing some research about the aftermath of some natural disasters that took place here in America. I was shocked to find that the articles I was looking for – ones that I had read in the past – were pretty hard to find, but articles refuting the sought-for pieces were rampant. Not just one event, but every single crisis aftermath that I looked up, had articles that were written after the fact stating in no uncertain terms that the hunger, chaos, and unrest never happened.

When looking for copies of 1984 and Animal Farm to re-read, they seemed to be in short supply. Even Amazon had very few versions available and local bookstores had none. They are either being suppressed - or we are buying them up in droves. I hope it's the latter. I do know they are not taught in schools any longer. Mores the shame.
20 posted on 09/10/2013 5:28:37 PM PDT by yorkiemom
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Our regime isn’t merely going to bumble in a disaster, they’re planning to confiscate food and all preparedness supplies. Executive orders give them total control.


23 posted on 09/10/2013 6:05:39 PM PDT by Missouri gal
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Yes, how can we forget that when Katrina struck, the good citizens of New Orleans didn't turn to wild, indiscriminate lootng?
Other than taking a bottle of life-giving water, or baby formula for dying babies, they showed remarkable restraint and respect for property.

/s


28 posted on 09/10/2013 6:34:03 PM PDT by Iron Munro ("You bring me the man, I'll find you the crime" - Lavrentiy Beria [and Eric Holder])
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I am reminded of Pascal’s wager. Some believe there is no God and live their lives that way, others do believe and live their lives that way. In the end for preppers the worst that will happen is that they have extra food etc...For others they will suffer accordingly.


51 posted on 09/11/2013 2:50:41 AM PDT by verga (Liberals, homeschoolers and protestants, not all that different if you look closely enough)
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To: Kartographer

bttt


56 posted on 09/13/2013 8:16:45 AM PDT by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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