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To: RC one

We are all accountable when we disrespect legitimate authority. If one uses deadly force to disobey legitimate authority, then the state is authorized to enforce the law by deadly force.


33 posted on 09/08/2013 12:46:45 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Cvengr

When you defend your property from rapacious Government YOU are the legitimate authority.

Did your Founding Fathers teach you nothing?


35 posted on 09/08/2013 1:08:55 AM PDT by agere_contra (I once saw a movie where only the police and military had guns. It was called 'Schindler's List'.)
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To: Cvengr

Disrespect legitimate authority? Ha! The legitimate authority that puts a 76 year old veteran on the street after stealing his private property and selling it to someone else over a $134 tax bill can kiss my ass in hell. How’s that for respect?


37 posted on 09/08/2013 1:16:19 AM PDT by RC one
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To: Cvengr

Assuming the authority is legitimate. On the one hand, Jesus specifically taught us 1) to pay our taxes, and 2) he himself would help us come up with the money (the coin fish). On the other hand, Augustine points out that a human law which runs contrary to the divine law has no legitimacy. Immoral law is really anti-law. And any law or system of laws which can result in this kind of inequity is clearly immoral. Someone was unjustly enriched at the expense of another. This is an ancient principle of the common law. Forfeiture as a penalty, especially for minor infractions, has long been frowned upon. The tax sale loophole is relatively modern and a clear departure from the old equities that gave the common law its moral force, I.e., its legitimacy. It cries out to be fixed. Especially where mental competency is at issue. I applaud Texas for their effort to get back on course.


38 posted on 09/08/2013 1:22:18 AM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: Cvengr
You went ahead and did it, didn't you?

You ruined everything by actually reading the entire Constitution, and the Federalist Papers too.

Madison, Hamilton and Jay just jawboning on and on about the executive enforcing the laws, having a nation of laws instead of men, elected governments having the power to levy taxes and suppress insurrections - and all that boring grownup stuff.

It's so much cooler to fantasize about doing whatever you want and then going on a rampage when someone tells you there are consequences.

39 posted on 09/08/2013 1:25:33 AM PDT by wideawake
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In case you hadn’t noticed, the current “authority” isn’t legitimate any more. You see Feinswein asking Holder to not enforce immigration LAW? You see Holder failing to uphold his oath of office as a public servant and defend DOMA? How about NSA’s massive violations of LAW with respect to our effects?

Many more can be found, but if you think the government gets to pick and chose what laws it gets to enforce or abide by, or ride roughshod over us with, while we don’t, you’ve got another “think” coming...


54 posted on 09/08/2013 2:37:29 AM PDT by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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