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To: crusher; Driabrin; Psalm 73; aumrl; GraceG; Jacquerie; OneWingedShark; VRW Conspirator; sten; ...

Is that the strongest reason to not try? The claim that people are too liberal, why a Liberty Convention will ‘fail’? Let’s take a look at four issues: gun control, gay marriage, abortion, and Obama-care.

Gun Control ...

Poll: 62 Percent of Americans Want[ed] Senate to Drop Gun Control ...

May 29, 2013 ... President Barack Obama has vowed to keep pushing for new gun control measures and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said the failed gun ... [complete disaster, wasn’t it?]

[reason.com/poll/2013/05/29/poll... sorry, couldn’t load full web address]

1. Gay Marriage v. ‘Same Sex Marriage’

At one time, thirty eight states were opposed to it. Little has changed public opinion on that issue.


2. Abortion

http://www.lifenews.com/2013/01/22/roe-at-40-polling-shows-americans-are-pro-life-on-abortion
“Some 62 percent want abortions illegal in all cases or legal only in certain instances while just 35% want abortions legal for any reason.”

Only “13% would allow abortion for any reason at any time”.


3. Obama-Care — overwhelming opposition. [’nough said on that.]


The real danger with a Liberty Convention is the college education system. What I mean is that it’s not the People who have been indoctrinated so much as politicians, who were virtually all subjected to college indoctrination. Many of our states’ GOP leaders are RINOs who secretly buy into a lot of Ruling Class dogma. THAT is the real danger, not the voter on the street.

Here’s the good news ...

Public Attention will be HIGH. A Liberty Convention will not be ignored. It would gain more scrutiny and evoke more debate than any presidential election in our history. It will be difficult for state level RINOs to team up with leftists. They would ‘out’ themselves and destroy their careers.


25 posted on 09/04/2013 6:55:06 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (George Washington: [Government] is a dangerous servant and a terrible master.)
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Also note that a lot of the people ‘on the street’ are too cynical to vote. Them, we don’t need to worry about so much. It’s the registered and likely voters that matter, especially when it ocmes to state level politics.


26 posted on 09/04/2013 7:08:36 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (George Washington: [Government] is a dangerous servant and a terrible master.)
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And how about vouchers. I know it is not high on the list of libertarians, but it is a topic of late again. Vouchers are a winning item for Republicans. They are highly popular, even among democrats. They will bust up the teacher’s unions while foiling the liberal (not entirely) indoctrination.

It seems the biggest obstacles thrown against vouchers are (pretzel logic) recreating segregation-messing up diversity and the church/state issue. An amendment would clear the playing field.


27 posted on 09/04/2013 12:10:18 PM PDT by VRW Conspirator (Producing Talk Show Prep since 1998.)
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