[ClearCase_guy]

Life isn't fair. Look, if some of that money can be returned (and I use that expression because it's what we are trained to say -- but there is no "return" -- there is just looting from today's taxpayers in order to pay other, more "deserving" people) but if some of that money can be returned in a way which is somewhat reasonable, then I am not opposed.

Personally, I see war and massive economic upheaval in our future. The notion that we should tally up some reasonable sum and expect our "just" compensation seems, to me, to fundamentally miss the nature of the mess we are in.

What I would like to see is a social infrastructure which allows basic food (rice and beans and not too much more) to be distributed so that even in the midst of the apocalypse we can keep starvation to a minimum. I think that sort of thinking makes sense as a "social safety net". I oppose any government program which would provide any sort of more comprehensive social safety net.

If you can think a successful way to give tens of thousands of dollars to each individual who has been conned by the Social Security scam, then I'll take my hat off to you. But I think we need to worry about more desperate problems.

[Lou L]

I understand you now, CCG.

I suggest you man up, and take the first shot. I'm right behind you.

If you're not ready to do that, then I suppose we're still willing to trust in the full faith of the US Government a little longer.