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To: one guy in new jersey

Nobody here as far as I know has said Ted cruz is not an American citizen..

although he was born in another country, his mother was an American citizen, and at least 19 years old...

Ted Cruz was born an American citizen...

the question is “Is he eligible to be president of the United States since he is not a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN”...

besides being born in another country his father was not an American citzen at the time of his birth...

If Obama who was born in the US but also without an American citizen father could be said to be ineligible even if he had been born in the Lincoln bedroom, how does Ted Cruz who was born in another country get a pass ???

This has not been acceptably explained in these threads...

Either there is no case for Obama to be ineligible..

or Ted Cruz is also ineligible...

We cant have it both ways...

Even McCain with his overseas birth to TWO American citizen parents and his father stationed overseas in the US military had to prove his eligibility through the Senate to be POTUS...

and Ted Cruz did nopt have both parents as American citizens with a father in the US military sent there by our government..

When I was in the US military and arrived at a US base overseas I was told to go back to the US for any births of children so they would be eligible to be POTUS...

this was 1975...5 years after Ted Cruz was born...

I knew that my son born the year before in the US was not eigible to be POTUS...

I was not an American citizen at the time and was not naturalized as an American citizen until he was 8 months old..

you can argue until you are blue in the face but that was the law when my son was born in 1974...

So if Obama is not eligible, neither is Ted Cruz...

these laws are not a smoresborg...

they are the same for everyone...


9 posted on 08/27/2013 11:19:17 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tennessee Nana

http://birthers.org/USC/Vattel.html

Everyone should read this and absorb it. It’s really quite simple.


11 posted on 08/27/2013 11:24:18 AM PDT by nesnah
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To: Tennessee Nana; one guy in new jersey
I knew that my son born the year before in the US was not eigible to be POTUS...

I was not an American citizen at the time and was not naturalized as an American citizen until he was 8 months old..

you can argue until you are blue in the face but that was the law when my son was born in 1974...


Please take this in the respect I mean it in. Your "knowledge" notwithstanding.

Same question TNana I've been asking everyone else:

Show me in the US Constitution where your opinion/position/knowledge is codified that it takes 2 parents that are US Citizens for a newborn to be "Natural Born".

Lacking that, please provide the relevant US Law(s) passed by Congress and signed by a US President that codifies your understanding/opinion/knowledge that it takes 2 parents that are US Citizens for a newborn to be "Natural Born".

Lacking that, please point us to the relevant US Supreme Court decision/ruling that proves that it takes 2 parents that are US Citizens for a newborn to be "Natural Born".
16 posted on 08/27/2013 11:30:41 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: Tennessee Nana

“Even McCain with his overseas birth to TWO American citizen parents and his father stationed overseas in the US military had to prove his eligibility through the Senate to be POTUS...”

NO! NO! NO! McCain is not eligible. McCain was born in a foreign country on foreign soil and (even though this doesn’t matter) in a city that was not under U.S. control.

The Senate resolution was NON-BINDING. A vote by the Senate can not overturn the Constitution.

Obama, McCain, Rubio, & Cruz are all ineligible to the office of president or vice president. They do not qualify under Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 of the Constitution, to wit the “Natural Born Citizen” requirement.

This is NOT that complicated, but the problem is that almost everyone THINKS they know about this. Even Levin! Mr. Constitution. Even Mr. Conservative Sean Hannity.

Born on U.S. soil by two citizen parents. This is what the framers intended. This is what the framers said by using the phrase “Natural Born Citizen”. The trouble is, today no one has been taught the constitutional requirements to be president. Myself, 63 years old, remember knowing my whole life that the requirements to be president are that you need to be at least 35 years old and been a resident at least 14 years, and be a citizen born in the USA. I don’t recall ever being taught what a “Natural Born Citizen” was.

The problem is that the public is completely IGNORANT on this issue. People don’t like being told that they are ignorant, especially when they actually are.


94 posted on 08/27/2013 1:32:01 PM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: Tennessee Nana
When I was in the US military and arrived at a US base overseas I was told to go back to the US for any births of children so they would be eligible to be POTUS...

Whoever told you that was an idiot.

203 posted on 08/27/2013 4:31:51 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: Tennessee Nana
I was not an American citizen at the time and was not naturalized as an American citizen until he was 8 months old..

Ted Cruz was never naturalized. He was never naturalized because he didn't need to be. He is an American Citizen who's citizenship never required naturalization - therefore...come TN, you can do it. Think!

219 posted on 08/27/2013 5:09:57 PM PDT by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: Tennessee Nana

I’m sure you and your children are all the salt of the earth and I’m pleased to call you all fellow citizens of my country. Your logic and reasoning are both quite sound.


276 posted on 08/27/2013 6:46:31 PM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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To: Tennessee Nana
So if Obama is not eligible, neither is Ted Cruz...

Obama and Cruz are both eligible. As are McCain, Jindal, Rubio, and Haley. As is your son.

NBC is simply citizen by birth, nothing more. Obama, Jindal, Rubio, Haley, and your son are NBC because they were born in the US. Cruz, McCain, and your son (assuming his father was a citizen) are NBC because at least one parent was a citizen.

544 posted on 08/30/2013 9:14:15 PM PDT by cynwoody
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