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To: one guy in new jersey; Jim Robinson; xzins; onyx; Lakeshark; Windflier; Servant of the Cross; ...

I will continue to propose that ANYONE who uses this forum to propagate the stupid idea that Ted Cruz is not a Natural Born Citizen according to the constitution be banned from this forum.

There is no truer Natural Born American than Ted Cruz in the Government today. Anyone using this forum as a means of tearing down this man or insulting the rest of the forum with stupid vapid arguments about whether or not Ted Cruz is “eligible” should be treated as a DU or MSM plant and be shown the door.

There is always a point at which one must draw a line in the sand. This is that point.


33 posted on 08/27/2013 11:45:51 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: P-Marlowe
I will continue to propose that ANYONE who uses this forum to propagate the stupid idea that Ted Cruz is not a Natural Born Citizen according to the constitution be banned from this forum.

Personally, I think Ted Cruz would pass muster with the Founding Fathers with flying colors. His heart and mind are unquestioningly aligned with, and welded to this country and its Founding Ideals.

My view is that the Framers inserted the NBC clause to guard against those with divided loyalties from ever assuming the office of President. That was a wise thing to do on their part, but it was only a stop gap measure, meant to filter out those least likely to bear such an innate loyalty to America.

They couldn't know that one day, a person like Barack Obama, who shows little evidence of the desired loyalty to this country and its ideals, would one day lay claim to eligibility to the office through a tenuous connection of birth - or that a man such as Ted Cruz, who, though being born outside this country to just one American citizen parent, would be so superior in loyalty and love for this country.

Put them both before the Framers with resumes in hand, and there's no doubt that one would pass, and the other would fail their test.

All that said, there can be no doubt that there is a case to be made regarding Ted Cruz' technical eligibility to hold that office. Instead of firing cannons at those who bring up those points, I think it would be better to do your best to convince them through reason and logic.

38 posted on 08/27/2013 12:00:22 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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I will continue to propose that ANYONE who uses this forum to propagate the stupid idea that Ted Cruz is not a Natural Born Citizen according to the constitution be banned from this forum.

Chill out P-Marlowe.

Can you tell me why the Founding States made the federal Constitution?

81 posted on 08/27/2013 1:14:04 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: P-Marlowe; Jim Robinson

Appreciate the ping.

I heard Mark make these statements that are the basis for this thread.

They weren’t intended to be a highbrow treatise on this subject, although he could’ve chosen that way. Just a few off-the-cuff, common sense remarks and the example he gave of the silliness supposing an American mother goes on a trip and her baby decides to be born while she’s “over the line” somewhere, she just has to forget the possibility that her child could ever grow up and become President.

I’ve used that type of example. That example doesn’t suffice for proof but it gets the subject percolating as to what is the reason for having natural born citizens be eligible? Obviously it was NOT to stop a candidacy of someone who’s birth moment came when his American mom was visiting or temporarily working across a boundary line.

But those who are determined to will claim that this is ALL Mark knows about the issue and he’s just a big nothing goofball about it.

Of course not. That’s ridiculous. But common sense and real life examples aren’t bad to percolate the issue into the land of REALVILLE that Rush talks about.

Too bad some are immune and would rip apart this conservative movement over this if they can.

When as Jim rightly reminds, we are conservatives, revere the Constitution AND are fighting like the Alamo’s last stand (had to get a Texan reference in) to save this Republic.


187 posted on 08/27/2013 3:37:30 PM PDT by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear." - Glenn Beck)
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The idea you reject is actually logical, right and true.

Cruz is showing himself to be an essential American, I agree.

Let’s put him on the Supreme Court, ASAP.


279 posted on 08/27/2013 6:46:31 PM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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