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To: Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
He didn't coin the term--he wrote in French, and his phrase in French does not include the words for "born" or "citizen."

What does it say then....."A Natural"?

I can see it now: “The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or "naturals", are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights. The society is supposed to desire this, in consequence of what it owes to its own preservation; and it is presumed, as matter of course, that each citizen, on entering into society, reserves to his children the right of becoming members of it. The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent. We shall soon see whether, on their coming to the years of discretion, they may renounce their right, and what they owe to the society in which they were born. I say, that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.”

LOL...........the last sentence kind of sums it up.....no matter what the Frogs called it.

How about this quote from John Jay, the first Chief Justice:

"Permit me to hint, whether it would be wise and reasonable to provide a strong check to the admission of Foreigners into the administration of our national Government; and to declare expressly that the Commander in Chief of the American army shall not be given to nor devolve on, any but a natural born Citizen."

Do you suppose he knew what the term implied....... or was he just playing around with words?

137 posted on 08/12/2013 2:35:24 PM PDT by Diego1618 (Put "Ron" on the Rock!)
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To: Diego1618
What does it say then....."A Natural"?

Don't be stupid. All I said was that, contrary to your claim, Vattel couldn't have coined the term "natural born citizen" because (1) he wrote in French and (2) he didn't use the French words for "born" or "citizen." You can translate "les naturels" however you like, but your original claim is still simply false.

LOL...........the last sentence kind of sums it up.....no matter what the Frogs called it.

On second thought, maybe you can't help being stupid. Vattel wasn't French, he was Swiss.

170 posted on 08/13/2013 8:05:34 PM PDT by Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
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