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To: CaptainK

Not sure where you’re going here. I don’t defend js and his grooming.

I do, however defend Joe Paterno and the manner with which he handled the situation he was handed by Mike McQueary the next day.


138 posted on 08/05/2013 5:07:20 PM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: FlJoePa

I do, however defend Joe Paterno and the manner with which he handled the situation he was handed by Mike McQueary the next day.

...if you want somebody to say that Joe was betrayed by Jerry, I will say so...quite obviously...trouble is, your knight in shining armor (Ziegler) backed himself into a pro Sandusky corner to make his point...and lost any credibility, which a million pages of speculation isn’t going to restore...

...IIRC, you once challenged me regarding Notre Dame football, because you assumed due to my ID I was an Irish fan (wrong), on the death of an assistant due to foul weather, as if that were a corollary to the PSU mess...exceedingly immature on your part, and pretty much told me all I needed to know about the quality of your postings...which your current obnoxious posture has only reinforced...

...I have a certain sympathy for your position, however, and I have changed my opinion of Joe over the past months...I’ve come to believe he didn’t have all the power and influence we once thought he had at PSU, and I’m not certain what freedom of action he had to buck the party line...I do believe, however, he knew exactly what the rest of the administrators knew, when they knew it; to wit, 1999 when their d-coordinator was being investigated...I still fail to see how anyone with an ounce of intellectual honesty believes he didn’t know about that...

...is Paterno an evil man for all of this? Of course not...I don’t think he had an evil bone in his body...he was plenty cantankerous, and maybe not the warm fuzzy figure he portrayed himself as, but evil, as some on this forum are saying? Not a chance...

...flawed? Absolutely. Wrong? Who’s to say, he’s dead, I say let him be...


144 posted on 08/05/2013 5:57:28 PM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: FlJoePa

Unless Paterno did not pay his phone bill, would calling 911 be too much to ask? If this had been his teenage grandson would he respond in the same manner?

All this didn’t take place at the downtown WMCA, it took place in the football gym locker room at Penn State. If Paterno had been told that McQueary had witnessed somebody vandalizing the lockerroom and knew the person, do you think Joe would have been more proactive?


164 posted on 08/06/2013 1:23:13 PM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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