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Day 22 (Week #5) Zimmerman Trial – Witness Discussion Thread
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | July 10, 2013 | Sundance

Posted on 07/10/2013 5:15:07 AM PDT by Uncle Chip

Today, July 10th, is DAY #22 (of 5th week) State of Florida V. George Zimmerman case.

Yesterday began with a boom as defense expert witness, world renowned Dr Vincent Di Maio took to the stand to validate the forensic evidence supporting George Zimmerman’s version of the encounter with Trayvon Martin. However, the day ended with an even bigger THUNDERCLAP in an epic 10pm showdown as Don West took on both the State prosecutors and trial Judge Nelson after the jury was released. Ending with Judge Nelson, turning her back and walking out of court. Unreal. A great analysis of the events from yesterday is available HERE.

The late night argument, not by the State, but by Judge Nelson herself, regarding phone evidence authentication, is so weak and insufferably devoid of legal analysis it is absurd on its face. Then again, this is the same judge who said a few days ago, flippantly in open court, that evidence should be “shredded” (Dr. Bao notes) after use. D’oh

Essentially Nelson argued that the phone records (texts and pics from Trayvon) cannot be authenticated to have originated by the specific personage of Trayvon Martin (despite two security codes) because anyone could have sent them. Whiskey*Tango*Foxtrot !!

How can an email be used in a sex offender case? How can phone records be used in RICO cases? How can GPS evidence be used in Insurance Cases? How are photographs taken by perps used against them? Think about it.

You can’t argue that evidence cannot be admitted because someone else might have made the actual phone call; Someone else might have physically sent the email; Someone else actually accessed the website; Someone else might have been the driver of the car; Or, someone else could possibly have been behind the viewing lens of the camera etc.

No, that argument does not mean you can arbitrarily exclude evidence. And this was the basis for her argument (watch the video).

Sure, that’s an argument which can be presented to the jury by the other side, as a counter point to create doubt with the jury, but it can’t be a reasonable consideration for total evidence exclusion. Then again, this is Judge Nelson – who in multiple prior cases has a high historical propensity of being overruled by the 5th District Court of Appeals.

It should be noted the NAACP Annual National Convention starts in Orlando on Friday; Additionally, preparations are being made in/around Miami-Dade for a Wednesday defense wrapped up with a community/LEO preparation meeting yesterday.


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To: Half Vast Conspiracy

She is my daughter in forum.For media you sure are a half.Should we get you coffee too.


2,361 posted on 07/10/2013 9:55:46 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: Half Vast Conspiracy

“You said you got the pic off of an official Facebook page. Right? Why can’t you provide a link and help a fellow Freeper out?”

I’m starting to suspect you...a fellow FReeper, of having something to do with this disappearing. No joke. You were too insistent of me proving it and not looking for yourself.

I was about to post a google image of my post, which I found an hour or so ago, and now it’s gone. Someone is reading FreeRepublic and making things go “poof!” Is it you?

Hmmmm....


2,362 posted on 07/10/2013 10:50:58 PM PDT by toldyou (Even if the voices aren't real, they have some pretty good ideas.)
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To: Toespi

Thank you for the info. i went back and listened to the incident. Shocking and horrifying!!!


2,363 posted on 07/11/2013 12:07:03 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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BTW, the very, very strange exchange with the judge and GZ about whether he will testify:

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/353105/judge-confronts-zimmerman-testy-exchange-dimitrios-halikias


2,364 posted on 07/11/2013 12:42:23 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: BunnySlippers

I think that the timing of the judge’s question is what West objected to more than anything. The defense still had more witnesses to present and whether or not the defendant would testify was none of the judge’s business until the defense rests. Then she can ask her question.


2,365 posted on 07/11/2013 3:55:40 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: BunnySlippers

You’re welcome.


2,366 posted on 07/11/2013 5:54:19 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: RoosterRedux

Perhaps. I just wonder about MOM.


2,367 posted on 07/11/2013 5:54:58 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: Elle Bee
"and if it will take her more than 5 seconds to say no after the attorneys stop speaking?"

Elle Bee: you don't give her enough credit.

She can have "no" out of her mouth during the last word. "No" will come as the last word is spoken and will already echo before the last word.

She's just that good...<8^)

Happy Trial Thursday!

Game on now!

2,368 posted on 07/11/2013 6:05:47 AM PDT by hummingbird (THE LIBERTY AMENDMENTS by Mark Levin. He has a great plan.)
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To: Fawn; toldyou; RummyChick
Any idea when that quote was made and for what cause?

told you doesn't know where it came from, but thinks I deleted it. LOL

Newflash: It's not deleted, told you. It is still showing up on this thread in the same location as yesterday. Why can't you just give a link to which "official website" the picture came from?

2,369 posted on 07/11/2013 6:11:19 AM PDT by Half Vast Conspiracy ( Because police powers are essential to the public good that abusing them is so offensive.)
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To: machogirl
Recess 30 minutes - time to catch up on thread!

There's Corey.

There's the ham actor - Guy.

There's the really bad ham actor - Matei

MOM out while polishing his summation (is that what it is called?).

2,370 posted on 07/11/2013 6:12:09 AM PDT by hummingbird (THE LIBERTY AMENDMENTS by Mark Levin. He has a great plan.)
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To: toldyou

i found it.
http://www.google.com/search?q=new+black+panthers+florida&client=safari&rls=en&source=lnms&tbm=isch&tbs=qdr:w&sa=X&ei=lLbeUbuaBNKs4AOUpoCgBA&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1523&bih=823#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=ia8QyBbWdQH7sM%3A%3BJKi7syiVMZOHHM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fbloviatingzeppelin.net%252Fwp-content%252Fuploads%252F2013%252F07%252FZimmerman-New-Black-Panthers.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fbloviatingzeppelin.net%252F%3B957%3B764


2,371 posted on 07/11/2013 6:49:09 AM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: All

OMG!!! Child abuse??? The desperate prosecution is really appalling.


2,372 posted on 07/11/2013 7:16:03 AM PDT by lula ( What America needs is men of Character in congress, we have enough characters.)
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To: fatima; toldyou
i found it

You mean I didn't delete it?

Great. So, where is this 'official' face book page that toldyou claimed it was on yesterday?

I don't expect any cooperation or a rational response from either of you.

I will say, for the sane folks reading, that I have no doubt that the New Black Panthers are loons. I have no doubt that many of them would say something similar to what is quoted on the graphic. I’ll also say that the truth is important.

Asking for confirmation or follow-up on a graphic pulled from the bowels of the internet is a reasonable thing to do. Being inquisitive will keep a person from being fooled.

2,373 posted on 07/11/2013 7:30:33 AM PDT by Half Vast Conspiracy ( Because police powers are essential to the public good that abusing them is so offensive.)
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To: Half Vast Conspiracy

Was just having fun with you:)


2,374 posted on 07/11/2013 7:56:30 AM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: Half Vast Conspiracy

“Being inquisitive will keep a person from being fooled.”

You say were being inquisitive? I don’t think so. I think you were being a pain-in-the-ass. LOL

When I went back to find it on facebook, upon your request, and I told you it wasn’t on their page anymore, you insisted that I find it anyway. If you have facebook, you would know that you can post and REMOVE a picture whenever you want.


2,375 posted on 07/11/2013 9:54:13 AM PDT by toldyou (Even if the voices aren't real, they have some pretty good ideas.)
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To: fatima

AH-HA! Thanks! It’s still deleted from their facebook page.


2,376 posted on 07/11/2013 9:55:47 AM PDT by toldyou (Even if the voices aren't real, they have some pretty good ideas.)
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To: toldyou

it’s impossible to guess what a jury of women will do on this, but it seems like most web postings on WFTV, abcnews.com, and even CNN tend to favor Zimmerman.

I don’t intend to check on MSNBC, because I know what I’ll find.


2,377 posted on 07/11/2013 10:22:52 AM PDT by MNDude (Sorry for typos. Probably written on a smartphone, and I have big clumsy fingers.)
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To: toldyou
When I went back to find it on facebook, upon your request, and I told you it wasn’t on their page anymore...

But it still is on whatever page you found it on. Here is the link you previously provided:

http://sphotos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/1017301_10201512375151212_1667934641_n.jpg

Click the link. It's still there. The problem is that I can't find a profile if all I have is a picture link.

You said that you found it on an "official" Facebook page of some sort. Can't you go through your history and find the page you were on yesterday?

If you can’t find it, or your computer skill are lacking, just say so. But, don’t try to suggest some sort of conspiracy where I deleted it or question my motives.

2,378 posted on 07/11/2013 10:47:08 AM PDT by Half Vast Conspiracy ( Because police powers are essential to the public good that abusing them is so offensive.)
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To: Donnafrflorida
"pool shock."

What is pool shock?

2,379 posted on 07/11/2013 4:48:42 PM PDT by hummingbird (THE LIBERTY AMENDMENTS by Mark Levin. He has a great plan.)
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To: hummingbird

calcium hypochloride. 78%.
one bag will purify 10,000 gallons of water.
look it up on youtube for instructions.
rotate it. keep it cool n dry.
also used to make bleach.

prepper stuff. lol


2,380 posted on 07/11/2013 5:55:38 PM PDT by Donnafrflorida (Thru HIM all things are possible.)
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