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Day 22 (Week #5) Zimmerman Trial – Witness Discussion Thread
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | July 10, 2013 | Sundance

Posted on 07/10/2013 5:15:07 AM PDT by Uncle Chip

Today, July 10th, is DAY #22 (of 5th week) State of Florida V. George Zimmerman case.

Yesterday began with a boom as defense expert witness, world renowned Dr Vincent Di Maio took to the stand to validate the forensic evidence supporting George Zimmerman’s version of the encounter with Trayvon Martin. However, the day ended with an even bigger THUNDERCLAP in an epic 10pm showdown as Don West took on both the State prosecutors and trial Judge Nelson after the jury was released. Ending with Judge Nelson, turning her back and walking out of court. Unreal. A great analysis of the events from yesterday is available HERE.

The late night argument, not by the State, but by Judge Nelson herself, regarding phone evidence authentication, is so weak and insufferably devoid of legal analysis it is absurd on its face. Then again, this is the same judge who said a few days ago, flippantly in open court, that evidence should be “shredded” (Dr. Bao notes) after use. D’oh

Essentially Nelson argued that the phone records (texts and pics from Trayvon) cannot be authenticated to have originated by the specific personage of Trayvon Martin (despite two security codes) because anyone could have sent them. Whiskey*Tango*Foxtrot !!

How can an email be used in a sex offender case? How can phone records be used in RICO cases? How can GPS evidence be used in Insurance Cases? How are photographs taken by perps used against them? Think about it.

You can’t argue that evidence cannot be admitted because someone else might have made the actual phone call; Someone else might have physically sent the email; Someone else actually accessed the website; Someone else might have been the driver of the car; Or, someone else could possibly have been behind the viewing lens of the camera etc.

No, that argument does not mean you can arbitrarily exclude evidence. And this was the basis for her argument (watch the video).

Sure, that’s an argument which can be presented to the jury by the other side, as a counter point to create doubt with the jury, but it can’t be a reasonable consideration for total evidence exclusion. Then again, this is Judge Nelson – who in multiple prior cases has a high historical propensity of being overruled by the 5th District Court of Appeals.

It should be noted the NAACP Annual National Convention starts in Orlando on Friday; Additionally, preparations are being made in/around Miami-Dade for a Wednesday defense wrapped up with a community/LEO preparation meeting yesterday.


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KEYWORDS: george; georgezimmerman; trayvon; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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To: onyx

201 posted on 07/10/2013 6:21:11 AM PDT by JoeProBono (Mille vocibus imago valet;-{)
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To: snarkytart

That evidence sure should be shown! This court is a JOKE! No justice for George Zimmerman in this trial!


202 posted on 07/10/2013 6:21:43 AM PDT by Conservative145
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To: Toespi

“The beautification of St. Trayvon is complete.”

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yep. thats what its all about. how can she deny this? the prosecution held that until LAST minute not allowing time for the defense to track down the texts (authentication).
she’s punishing Zimmerman who she is SUPPOSE TO PROTECT, because the prosecution along with Crump playing dirty pool.

Corrupt bunch of low life thugs..ALL of them.


203 posted on 07/10/2013 6:22:31 AM PDT by snarkytart
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To: snarkytart

Yes, and especially because the prosecution made an issue of Z’s interest in becoming an LEO.


204 posted on 07/10/2013 6:22:40 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: moehoward

Actually I think this will work out better for the defense because the demonstrative he will show will be more complete than the pared down one they were arguing about.


205 posted on 07/10/2013 6:23:04 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: snarkytart

One small correction, it is beatification.


206 posted on 07/10/2013 6:23:30 AM PDT by Mouton (108th MI Group.....68-71)
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To: onyx

Now the video cannot be cross examined. Just shown as fact


207 posted on 07/10/2013 6:23:39 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then!)
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There is a lot of whining going on here about the judge. I still don’t see how we get anything less than not guilty unless there is a whacked out juror or two.

No reasonable (or even partially reasonable) human being that sits on that jury and sees what we are seeing could do anything other than find him not guilty, even of manslaughter. The prosecution has no case.

So the judges antics, though annoying - and possibly crippling to her career - really are not having an impact and, possibly, may do more harm than good to the prosecution’s chances.


208 posted on 07/10/2013 6:24:01 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Conservative145

The judge has been very careful to not put St Skittles on trial here. But demonizing the victim has been a defense tactic for centuries. It’s just not as commonly done in a murder trial.


209 posted on 07/10/2013 6:24:05 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: SteveH

Kathi Belich, WFTV @KBelichWFTV
A couple of the judge’s friends are here in court today. #Zimmermanon9
***********************************************************
Angela Corey and Trayvon’s Mom?


210 posted on 07/10/2013 6:24:11 AM PDT by House Atreides
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To: AppyPappy

9:23

Kathi Belich, WFTV@KBelichWFTV

We’ve been told that defense witness John Donnelly was not subpoenaed until 8 days after he was in court for trial. He 1/2 #Zimmermanon9


211 posted on 07/10/2013 6:24:25 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: DrewsMum; don-o

I think we must be aware that while the trial is in session, there are probably only a few posters that are ‘current’ on the thread.

Many others are trying to catch up, or locked in a debate over an issue with another poster. Heck, yesterday the LIVE THREAD was increasing in size by 100 posts every minute.

All of us are trying to watch the trial, listen to the trial, while reading the new posts, and trying to respond to posts from others.

Some are at work, some are at home but have duties there too.

Everyone is multi-tasking, very few can keep up with it all.

So... if you ‘jump’ in to the thread, and then expect those who are probably ‘multi-tasking’ more than anyone else to immediately respond to just YOUR post, I’d say you are expecting a miracle and will be disappointed.

Usually there are other Zimmerman threads on FR during the LIVE thread, and sometimes I find it is easier to have a ‘conversation’ on them.

On the LIVE THREAD, like this, I try to just post ‘events’ as I see them, or make a few sarcastic comments. Occasionally I can enjoin a single poster in a debate about an ‘issue’, but I don’t expect immediate answers.

The only reason I had the time to spew this long explanation is because the court isn’t in session, and I’ve got to be gone for a few hours soon.

Anyway... food for thought.


212 posted on 07/10/2013 6:24:28 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: All

213 posted on 07/10/2013 6:24:38 AM PDT by 101stAirborneVet
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To: don-o

In CA, yes.

FLA—I don’t know.


214 posted on 07/10/2013 6:24:42 AM PDT by reagandemocrat
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To: sheikdetailfeather

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Kathi Belich, WFTV@KBelichWFTV

Was in court on Jun 25/Jun 26 and was subpoenaed as a witness Jul 4. Don’t know how the judge will handle it. #Zimmermanon9


215 posted on 07/10/2013 6:25:01 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: 101stAirborneVet

Sabrina,that classic scowl.


216 posted on 07/10/2013 6:25:10 AM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: machogirl
The attack trees and attack flashlight are in!

What now, genius?

217 posted on 07/10/2013 6:25:40 AM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: RummyChick
Geraldo Rivera ‏@GeraldoRivera 51s Regarding George Zimmerman as I have been saying for a year, its a clear case of self defense. He will be acquitted, but should be sued

If its a clear cut case of self defense, and Zimmerman will be acquitted, why, Mr Rivera, should he be sued? Furthermore why should *anyone* who clearly defends themselves from unlawful physical attack be sued? Lastly, Mr Rivera, what planet do you live on? It certainly isn't planet "here"...

the infowarrior

218 posted on 07/10/2013 6:25:43 AM PDT by infowarrior
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To: Uncle Chip

Qaerie: Did her “Honor” withhold the exculpatory
evidence because .... SHE KNEW of its removal, earlier???

The appearance of impropriety, given
what happened this morning,
now includes possible conspiracy.


219 posted on 07/10/2013 6:25:55 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: onyx

lol


220 posted on 07/10/2013 6:26:10 AM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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