Posted on 07/10/2013 5:15:07 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
Today, July 10th, is DAY #22 (of 5th week) State of Florida V. George Zimmerman case.
Yesterday began with a boom as defense expert witness, world renowned Dr Vincent Di Maio took to the stand to validate the forensic evidence supporting George Zimmerman’s version of the encounter with Trayvon Martin. However, the day ended with an even bigger THUNDERCLAP in an epic 10pm showdown as Don West took on both the State prosecutors and trial Judge Nelson after the jury was released. Ending with Judge Nelson, turning her back and walking out of court. Unreal. A great analysis of the events from yesterday is available HERE.
The late night argument, not by the State, but by Judge Nelson herself, regarding phone evidence authentication, is so weak and insufferably devoid of legal analysis it is absurd on its face. Then again, this is the same judge who said a few days ago, flippantly in open court, that evidence should be “shredded” (Dr. Bao notes) after use. D’oh
Essentially Nelson argued that the phone records (texts and pics from Trayvon) cannot be authenticated to have originated by the specific personage of Trayvon Martin (despite two security codes) because anyone could have sent them. Whiskey*Tango*Foxtrot !!
How can an email be used in a sex offender case? How can phone records be used in RICO cases? How can GPS evidence be used in Insurance Cases? How are photographs taken by perps used against them? Think about it.
You can’t argue that evidence cannot be admitted because someone else might have made the actual phone call; Someone else might have physically sent the email; Someone else actually accessed the website; Someone else might have been the driver of the car; Or, someone else could possibly have been behind the viewing lens of the camera etc.
No, that argument does not mean you can arbitrarily exclude evidence. And this was the basis for her argument (watch the video).
Sure, that’s an argument which can be presented to the jury by the other side, as a counter point to create doubt with the jury, but it can’t be a reasonable consideration for total evidence exclusion. Then again, this is Judge Nelson – who in multiple prior cases has a high historical propensity of being overruled by the 5th District Court of Appeals.
It should be noted the NAACP Annual National Convention starts in Orlando on Friday; Additionally, preparations are being made in/around Miami-Dade for a Wednesday defense wrapped up with a community/LEO preparation meeting yesterday.
Ah, so the word is out about gangsta Slimm. At least, from the non-US-lamestream media. With them it’s still “poor little kid Trayvon was murdered in cold blood by a cop-wannabe racist stalker”.
We are so screwed in this country.
Interesting. WTF TV. Is showing a more provocative picture of TM, the one with his grill.
Catching up..... didn’t lovely DeeDee (or whomever) text that her mom was buying her a gun?
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A certain amount of “rough and tumble” (and some frivolity) goes with the territory. But, there needs to be a limit, especially on the live threads.. After all, isn’t self-restraint a virtue that conservatism promotes?
Loose hair, good sign.
the phone sex did the trick? LOL
can you show me how to break someone’s nose to Trayvon text
I would think if Zimmerman is sued in civil court a lot more evidence will come out, in particular what kind of father Martin had. For sure THAT is the main reason Martin got killed.
Bump.
I am interested in this trial but can’t spend so much time trying to keep up.
I have questions:
1. What evidence did the Prosecution slip in and the defense didn’t have advanced warning of?
2. What and Whose are the txt messages?
3. This image I see on the threads (TM’s phone pics) - Are these authentic?
4. Is TM’s THC BAC allowed or not?
5. Re. the judge’s bias - Is it a matter of this: She knows that Zimmerman is innocent, she has to give every advantage she can to the State (with her UNbelievable rulings) so that the public (mainly TM supporters) are less likely to cry “Foul!” ?
Thanks in advance. I understand if you reply, simply “Read the threads.”
AND Why don’t some of you cut the gender bashing. It’s not becoming of the decorum expected here. It makes this place loo DU-ish and it puts you at the same level as our political enemies.
Spoilation of exculpatory evidence = Brady violation.
Sooo....all of those pedaphiles that the FBI and local police have sent to prison due to porn found on their home computers need to be immediately released since...someone ELSE could have downloaded those pics. And terrorists that have been imprisoned for plotting to attack the US ....discovered by the NSA via their phone conversations should ALSO be immediately released, since....anybody could have snuck in and used their phones while they weren’t looking.
Nelson is full of $hit.
Geraldo can go straight to He//.
“Should be sued,” for violating TM’s civil rights, I’m sure.
bk mk
My wife was watching Nancy Grace last night and wow has she lost it. You couldn’t convince her that Zimmerman is innocent even if Trevon Martin texted that. I’m glad she changed the channel after a couple of minutes.
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