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Day 22 (Week #5) Zimmerman Trial – Witness Discussion Thread
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | July 10, 2013 | Sundance

Posted on 07/10/2013 5:15:07 AM PDT by Uncle Chip

Today, July 10th, is DAY #22 (of 5th week) State of Florida V. George Zimmerman case.

Yesterday began with a boom as defense expert witness, world renowned Dr Vincent Di Maio took to the stand to validate the forensic evidence supporting George Zimmerman’s version of the encounter with Trayvon Martin. However, the day ended with an even bigger THUNDERCLAP in an epic 10pm showdown as Don West took on both the State prosecutors and trial Judge Nelson after the jury was released. Ending with Judge Nelson, turning her back and walking out of court. Unreal. A great analysis of the events from yesterday is available HERE.

The late night argument, not by the State, but by Judge Nelson herself, regarding phone evidence authentication, is so weak and insufferably devoid of legal analysis it is absurd on its face. Then again, this is the same judge who said a few days ago, flippantly in open court, that evidence should be “shredded” (Dr. Bao notes) after use. D’oh

Essentially Nelson argued that the phone records (texts and pics from Trayvon) cannot be authenticated to have originated by the specific personage of Trayvon Martin (despite two security codes) because anyone could have sent them. Whiskey*Tango*Foxtrot !!

How can an email be used in a sex offender case? How can phone records be used in RICO cases? How can GPS evidence be used in Insurance Cases? How are photographs taken by perps used against them? Think about it.

You can’t argue that evidence cannot be admitted because someone else might have made the actual phone call; Someone else might have physically sent the email; Someone else actually accessed the website; Someone else might have been the driver of the car; Or, someone else could possibly have been behind the viewing lens of the camera etc.

No, that argument does not mean you can arbitrarily exclude evidence. And this was the basis for her argument (watch the video).

Sure, that’s an argument which can be presented to the jury by the other side, as a counter point to create doubt with the jury, but it can’t be a reasonable consideration for total evidence exclusion. Then again, this is Judge Nelson – who in multiple prior cases has a high historical propensity of being overruled by the 5th District Court of Appeals.

It should be noted the NAACP Annual National Convention starts in Orlando on Friday; Additionally, preparations are being made in/around Miami-Dade for a Wednesday defense wrapped up with a community/LEO preparation meeting yesterday.


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KEYWORDS: george; georgezimmerman; trayvon; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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To: SteveH

Kathi Belich, WFTV @KBelichWFTV
A couple of the judge’s friends are here in court today. #Zimmermanon9


141 posted on 07/10/2013 6:10:23 AM PDT by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: 101stAirborneVet
I believe the judge may know Z is innocent, but she is still trying to railroad him, in my opinion.

this judge fears losing the advantage of incumbency in her next election ... she has been trying to get appointed to the state supreme court (ugh)

remember Jeb 'pudgy' Bush put this witch on the bench to begin with

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142 posted on 07/10/2013 6:10:30 AM PDT by Elle Bee
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To: bray

She is a DISgrace. I turned HLN on the other night, which I never watch, just trying to get an update.

She was so pathetically obvious in her bias. I had to turn it off.


143 posted on 07/10/2013 6:10:42 AM PDT by txmissy
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To: bray

Can GZ sue her?


144 posted on 07/10/2013 6:10:47 AM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: All

145 posted on 07/10/2013 6:10:56 AM PDT by 101stAirborneVet
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To: kinsman redeemer

If she doesn’t allow these texts, and if I was on the jury and convicted GZ, I would be devastated with my decision and furious that this evidence was withheld from me.


146 posted on 07/10/2013 6:11:23 AM PDT by Toespi
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To: Uncle Chip

Nancy Grace has obviously coached the states persecution team.


147 posted on 07/10/2013 6:11:23 AM PDT by showme_the_Glory (ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government)
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To: Hoodat

That’s creepy.


148 posted on 07/10/2013 6:11:29 AM PDT by kinsman redeemer (The real enemy seeks to devour what is good.)
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To: DrDude

The point of showing marijuana in TM’s system is GZ’s assessment of TM at the time.


149 posted on 07/10/2013 6:11:35 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Uncle Chip

The judge is fighting upstream against a current that says a 12 year-old black child was killed by a vigilante white racist. That’s been the MSM pitch from the beginning. When things get introduced that go against that scenario, she gets all itchy. She really does not want to get the blame for this acquital.


150 posted on 07/10/2013 6:11:53 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: Nita Nupress
If i were you, i might go into my browser’s settings and disable the automatic loading of pics

Thank you!! I hadn't thought of that.
151 posted on 07/10/2013 6:11:57 AM PDT by ratzoe (damn, I miss Barbara Olson)
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To: Uncle Chip

Bookmark.


152 posted on 07/10/2013 6:12:26 AM PDT by Andy'smom
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To: SteveH

Maybe they are her escorts in case the jury returns a verdict. Long hot summer, ya know


153 posted on 07/10/2013 6:12:48 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: RummyChick

Video in for closing arguments


154 posted on 07/10/2013 6:13:02 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: don-o

Animation may not be used as evidence. It may be used as a demonstrative exhibit


155 posted on 07/10/2013 6:13:13 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Now we all have Obama phones.)
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To: All

"computer animation will not be introduced into evidence, but it may be used as a demonstrative exhibit."

"phone messages are out."

156 posted on 07/10/2013 6:13:21 AM PDT by 101stAirborneVet
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To: UCANSEE2

In March of 2012 I thought Z hunted down and killed M based on the scanning of news stories. I usually don’t follow murder trials because I consider them local news unless it is the assasination of a president or something.

But when the race baiters got involved I realized this would be national news, and therefore might impact me politically, so I reasearched the case.

It didn’t take long to realize what happened. In fact, by late May my opinion was pretty much the same as it is now, and has been totally supported by what we saw in court. Witnesses even collapsed under cross as I suspected they would.

Anyway, I created hundreds of posts on various boards back then and the case became a litmus test for me. That is, anyone that was actively arguing about it and STILL thought Z tracked down and murdered M was classified, by me, as the same ilk as those who claim we never landed on the moon, or that the chinese launched a missile off the coast of Los Angeles in December of 2011. They lost all credibility.

Then I had an epiphany. I started asking these crackpots a simple question: Are you black. The vile that came out then was tangible, but the answer, virtually every time, once I got it, was that they were.

That is when I realized that most of those who still take the position that Z murdered M are, in essence, black racists.

Chicago in 1968 was nothin’ compared to what we are in for.


157 posted on 07/10/2013 6:13:26 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: don-o

I appreciate that......thank you....


158 posted on 07/10/2013 6:13:40 AM PDT by Fawn (In a World of Information, Ignorance is a Choice.)
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To: moehoward

No animation, pros sustained may be used as demonstrative evidence?
Text not allowed.


159 posted on 07/10/2013 6:14:09 AM PDT by Toespi
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The animation is out as evidence but can be used as a demonstrative.

The texts and pictures from Martin’s phone is out.

Unbelievable.


160 posted on 07/10/2013 6:14:46 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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