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Must Cats Die So Birds Can Live? (Inside an Animal-Lover Civil War)
New York Magazine ^ | Jun 9, 2013 | Jessica Pressler

Posted on 06/10/2013 12:30:41 PM PDT by nickcarraway

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To: FreedomPoster

Cat bells are a good idea. Wish my old cat Lucky had one when he killed that rat. Brought it home. Lucky died the next day, apparently from catching a rat that had been poisoned. Maybe the thing would have run away if he’d heard that bell and Lucky would still be on the planet.


41 posted on 06/10/2013 2:12:59 PM PDT by Veto! (Opinions freely expressed as advice)
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To: nickcarraway
Cats do pose a very sad problem. They're an apex predator in many environments, and they will decimate populations of native species while breeding like crazy if there are no predators. Australia is a sad example. Hunting cats has become a standard source of food for many Aborigines. The cats, which are not native to Australia, are wiping out native, defenseless species.

On the other hand, I'm a big fan of inside cats. You can still give them limited access to the "great outdoors," but keep them inside. They live MUCH longer, and you don't have to worry about fights, many diseases, or finding Kitty as roadkill, or just not at all.

Mark

42 posted on 06/10/2013 2:19:11 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: Veto!

All three of my7 cats know their names and come when called by them-the Maine Coon jumps onto my chair when called-all 22 pounds of him.

I think there is kitty LSD in Party Mix-my cats love the stuff, too, and they come running when I open the fridge at 8pm, because they know they will get Party Mix...


43 posted on 06/10/2013 2:26:27 PM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: Texan5

Oops-I don’t have 7 cats-just 3 and clumsy fingers...


44 posted on 06/10/2013 2:28:35 PM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: dainbramaged

Feral felines should be exterminated, period.

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You are correct.


45 posted on 06/10/2013 2:31:25 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Restore us, O God of hosts; let your face shine, that we may be saved! -Ps80)
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To: nickcarraway
"even off-puttingly feminine."

Ah yes, again the Freudian-like explanation for why some men hate cats.......I have long suspected it.

46 posted on 06/10/2013 2:32:54 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: Veto!

>> Party Mix is the best cat training aid

What is IN that stuff, anyway? Is it legal?

It works though.


47 posted on 06/10/2013 2:33:07 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: nickcarraway
This cat people - bird people stuf is a steaming load.

I suppose if push came to shove, I come down on the dise of the cats, being a carnivore like them.

That said, I am helping raise the second batch of yellow billed cardinal chicks in the last few months. The parents come up to my kitchen window in the morning and agitate for me to come out and distribute bread crumbs. They take these back to the nest. The babies from the last batch have not shown up much yet, but they will.

Our cats come out on the lanai while they are there, and know no hunting is allowed. They will chatter at them sometimes, but the birds keep their distance for the most part.

48 posted on 06/10/2013 2:39:46 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: Nervous Tick
You must not live in the country. We NEED our feral cats. They serve a purpose.
I do live in the country, on acreage, surrounded by forest with an abundance of wildlife and natural beauty and feral felines are not welcome here. Go peddle your nonsense elsewhere.
49 posted on 06/10/2013 2:42:01 PM PDT by dainbramaged (Joe McCarthy was right.)
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To: Albion Wilde

I find it interesting that a lesbian would name her dog Peter.


50 posted on 06/10/2013 2:45:35 PM PDT by Roos_Girl (The world is full of educated derelicts. - Calvin Coolidge)
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51 posted on 06/10/2013 2:52:35 PM PDT by ThomasThomas (A bad hair day is not a mental issue, or is it?)
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To: nickcarraway

Birds are a prey species. Cats are carnivores. End of conversation. Oh, except that I love my indoor/outdoor cat. We had to say goodbye to our 19 year old indoor/outdoor cat Boris this year so not interested in the debate about how indoor only cats live longer. It just seems that way. We feed birds. We call them welfare birds. But we feed them because they amuse us. We are the humans and it amuses us to have birds in our yard. It does not amuse us to have chipmunks, ground squirrels (or very many tree squirrels), or other rodents so we love our cat. It amuses us to live with a cat. It is totally about us and anything beyond that whether from PETA or anyone else is silly. I just spent $300 to have my geriatric cattle dogs ears cleaned and his toenails trimmed. Okay, they’re doing some other tests but that’s just because that’s what vets do. I mainly took him because of the ears and the nails. He’s 105. I love him. I will keep him happy as long as I can but when he no longer has a good quality of life, I will happily pay the vet to put him down. Or Mr. Mercat will take him out to the farm and shoot him. He’s a dog, not a child.


52 posted on 06/10/2013 2:56:57 PM PDT by Mercat
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To: nickcarraway

Do you realize how many cute, cuddly worms are cruelly slain by robins every time it rains around here? Who will speak for the orphaned baby worms, huh? WHO?


53 posted on 06/10/2013 2:57:37 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Mercat

As a human it amuses me to read your post.


54 posted on 06/10/2013 3:03:47 PM PDT by ThomasThomas (A bad hair day is not a mental issue, or is it?)
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To: Roos_Girl

You’re not an FR joke explainer, are you?


55 posted on 06/10/2013 3:06:40 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("There can be no dialogue with the prince of this world." -- Francis)
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To: Albion Wilde

I apologize! I thought it was rather obvious that a lesbian had no use for a peter, so why name the dog that?


56 posted on 06/10/2013 3:22:35 PM PDT by Roos_Girl (The world is full of educated derelicts. - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: Bryanw92

They’d most likley find them undigestable, and simply bury them from the smell.


57 posted on 06/10/2013 3:31:05 PM PDT by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: dainbramaged

“dainbramaged”, indeed.


58 posted on 06/10/2013 3:31:45 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: Bigg Red

I am cat lover, and I agree. Also, they should be tagged, and the owner heavily fined. I am so tired of irresponsible human slime dumpin or not properly caring for their pets.


59 posted on 06/10/2013 3:34:00 PM PDT by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: nickcarraway

“They kill for fun”

No, they don’t, you moron. Stop assigning human qualities and motives to animals. They hunt because they are nature’s most efficient killer. It’s what they do. If their hunting drive bothers you, avoid them and adopt a bunny.


60 posted on 06/10/2013 3:36:44 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males----the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization).)
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