Fogblower, you've been given lots of elbow room and civil respect on this forum - by me, and many others. I've patiently explained my thinking and made my case to you many times, using quotes from the Constitution, rational arguments, and essays by excellent thinkers on the subject.
When all that failed, I appealed to your sense of logic to get you to see my point, by posing a question which would lead you to discover the Framers' wisdom for yourself.
You rejected all of that. Instead of quietly and studiously considering the thoughtful arguments presented to you, you responded with walls of copypasta and spittle-laden diatribes worthy of a Wall Street lawyer who's losing the biggest case of his career.
And you haven't just treated me that way. That's been your behavior with everyone you've debated this issue with at FR. Frankly, it's simply a waste of time to continue going round and round in circles with you.
You've got your viewpoint, we know what it is, and there's little else to be said about it. We disagree. I, for one, am not interested in continuing to throw my valuable time away by talking to a fence post.
If I respond to anything you say on the subject from this point forward, expect nothing but dismissiveness, derision, and ridicule. You've more than earned it here.
Civil respect? And you begin your paragraph by calling me an ugly name?
HA!
When it comes to rational arguments... well, semi-rational, at least.
Your argument basically consists of, "This is what I would do. Therefore, it's what the Founders did."
I pointed out the completely flawed nature of that argument. And what was your response? Simply to act as if your fallacy didn't exist.
WE DON'T JUDGE WHAT THE FOUNDERS DID BY WHAT YOU OR I OR JACK OVER THERE WOULD DO. WE JUDGE WHAT THE FOUNDERS DID BY WHAT THEY ACTUALLY DID.
And the only way to know THAT is to look at history and the law.
But our history, and our law, all say you're wrong. So you throw those out the window, insisting again that whatever YOUR personal preference is, why, that MUST be what the Founders did. If I respond to anything you say on the subject from this point forward, expect nothing but dismissiveness, derision, and ridicule. You've more than earned it here. Fogblower, you've been given lots of elbow room and civil respect on this forum - by me, and many others. I've patiently explained my thinking and made my case to you many times, using quotes from the Constitution, rational arguments, and essays by excellent thinkers on the subject.
If I respond to anything you say on the subject from this point forward, expect nothing but dismissiveness, derision, and ridicule...
I will. Because you and I both have made it clear that you don't HAVE any valid historical or legal argument. You can't even REPLY to any of the dozens of quotes from our best and most authoritative historical and legal figures. So personal opinion, dismissiveness, derision and ridicule is all you have left.