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To: imardmd1

I don’t debate with links.
If you have a case to present, then present it — here.
Otherwise we can all reasonably conclude that you are really just blowing smoke.

The truth of the matter, again, is that you don’t speak for science, because you reject the defining scientific principle of natural explanations for natural processes.
So what you are selling here is not science, but something else — your religious convictions.

Must go now, will have more later...


173 posted on 05/07/2013 5:11:58 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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To: BroJoeK
I don’t debate with links.

Hmmm. The express purpose of presenting this topic was to give you the opportunity of commenting on the author's illumination of a very convincing refutation of the faith-based evolutionary's conjectures. What's the problem (rhetorical)?

Otherwise we can all reasonably conclude that you are really just blowing smoke.

Well, if so, it's not evolutionary pants-afire smoke, which is coming out of the contentions you made. Martin's book deals with them effectively.

The truth of the matter, again, is that you don’t speak for science, because you reject the defining scientific principle of natural explanations for natural processes.

Natural explanations may or may not be based on foundational truths. Some not: Phlogiston as source of energy. Stress causes ulcers. Tyrranosaurus rex was carnivorous. Fossilization requires thousands or hundreds of thousands of years. Blood vessels or relicts of blood cells in dinosaur bones are from mummification of flesh prolonged hundreds of thousands or millions of years. Evolution is a process recognized by the ancients and thoroughly proven today. Et cetera, etc.

Prove that the explanations you propose are not just assumptions made to connect a gradualism time frame with (an) observed fact(s).

So what you are selling here is not science, but something else — your religious convictions.

I've not been "selling" either. Stick to disproving rather than ignoring the issues Martin deals with in "The Evolution of a Creationist." The purpose of the initial post is to bring the free availability of the book again to the attention of the community, not to troll for displaying my ability (or lack of it) as a creationist or debater.

177 posted on 05/07/2013 12:09:52 PM PDT by imardmd1
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