[Salamander]

Blind pig + acorn.

What matters is that they were recognized regardless of who was POTUS at the time.

[Joe 6-pack]

Well, Barry's recognition, coupled with your passionate defense are only reinforcing my estimation of the degree to which they are over rated.

Led Zep is, IMHO, a band that fifth graders fell in love with decades ago, for no other reason than because the eighth graders thought they were cool...