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New Toshiba laptop Bought new Toshiba laptop
.toshiba. ^ | 3 22 2013

Posted on 03/22/2013 4:41:59 PM PDT by dennisw

Got this for $350 when taxes are included. Has Windows 8. I have not opened the box yet and will wait until Sunday to see if there isn't some thing better out there at Best Buy, Staples, Office Depot etc...

So what do freepers think of this model? The CPU comes in at above 2100 on CPU benchmark site and I will be adding 4gb memory soon to make 8gb. This cpu is Ivy Bridge which is the latest


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To: mountainlion
I got a new HP with windows 8. This program looks like some kid made it. It looks like some teenybopper game. It is not easy to use and really counter intuitive.

Recently got a laptop with Windows 8. I loved XP, I love Windows 7 on my home PC but HATE Windows 8 on my new laptop. I'm not an iPad touch screen kind of guy. Heck, I just make phone calls on my flip cell phone.

61 posted on 03/22/2013 6:30:14 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (NRA)
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To: Kirkwood
Actually the limit in a 32 bit system is around 3.3 gigs. to get to it most people run 4 Gb of DDR3 ram in paired 2 GB chips. All of the newer multicore processors are capable of running a 64 bit operating system which can address much more ram, but it is hard to get over 16 Gb of DDR3 ram in a laptop. I believe all MS systems are usually shipping with the 64 bit OS installed, and when you buy windows, you have the option to install either version. I am running Windows 7 64 bit home premium on a 8 year old Toshiba satellite and it runs just as well as the 32 bit operating system did with 2 Gb of ram on a dual core celeron chip.
62 posted on 03/22/2013 6:32:47 PM PDT by Woodman
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To: dennisw
So you kinda have to buy a new computer unless you want to struggle and keep Firefox at version 5.3

I hear you, although i run FF 19 with about 80-110+ tabs open (i try to get back to them) , and OpenOffice with about 15 docs open for more editing, and Thunderbird with multiple email accounts, using a 2005 Sony PC with 2.8ghz 64bit dual core cpu, and 4gb ram and a flash drive using ReadyBoost under W/8 pro 64bit.

However, the Intel mobo will not allow more than 3.38 gb or ram to be available, which i did not know when i upgraded from XP32 bit for 29.00. So i usually have about 1gb of free ram (and a page file on a separate drive)

FF used to use a lot of cpu cycles (and after restarting it i have almost all my free ram back) until i install the NoScript extension. Sites like Amazon send it up.

63 posted on 03/22/2013 6:33:35 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: dennisw

For some reason, I’ve always loved the HP computers. I’ll say that I buy the extended warranty from them, and their service has been fantastic. I actually had a guy in my house Thursday replacing a screen where the backlight had failed.

On the other hand, I just bought an ASUS gaming laptop, it’s a huge behemoth, 9.5 pounds, and in 2 days the power brick went bad, and it took them 10 days to send me a new one, and I had to pay to send the broken one back. (I actually bought a spare from a 3rd-party vendor to get the computer working).

But it is a nice computer.


64 posted on 03/22/2013 6:35:25 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: dennisw

letushopeitcomeswitgudspelangramrckr


65 posted on 03/22/2013 6:43:14 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: dennisw
Darn right it better be!

Hold down the Windows key and tap the Pause or Break key (and the FN key on some) for a shortcut to the system window which will tell you this. Or do the Windows key and "i" key and hit PCinfo .

If you want more shortcuts let me know (or see FR thread here

Note also that if you want a vast improvement on sound, for about 2.00 you can get an FM transmitter. I wonder why it is not USB powered though

Better to hear the word of God with.

66 posted on 03/22/2013 6:43:48 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: mountainlion; Inyo-Mono
I got a new HP with windows 8. This program looks like some kid made it. It looks like some teenybopper game.

I suspect a certain brand of socialist psychologist is behind this.

67 posted on 03/22/2013 6:48:53 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: mountainlion
It is not easy to use and really counter intuitive.

It's actually not that hard to figure out, and in reality, it's actually easier, or as easy as Windows 7 to use. I now have 3 computers at home using Windows 8, and I don't miss Windows 7 at all, since Windows 8 can be used as if it were Windows 7, and as Windows 8 when one wants the new UI or needs the touch capabilities that the UI was designed for. Most times, my PCs are in regular Windows 7 mode, since once you get past the "metro" screen, the computer and OS work the same as the older Windows OSes. Even my non-techie wife, has gotten used to the new OS, and she never even sees a difference between Windows 8 and Window Windows 7. Once she gets to the old UI, it's all the same as before. Heck, even a 3 year old can learn to use Windows 8, and it's really quite intuitive. You might not like the look of the screen, but it's actually quite easy and quite intuitive. And, the whole setup is a lot more useful than any other OS ever. I'm not saying it because I love Microsoft or Windows, but it's mostly because, I fail to see where the complaints have any real merit.
68 posted on 03/22/2013 8:03:43 PM PDT by adorno (Y)
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To: dennisw
Toshiba makes great notebooks. Having spent the last few weeks with a new Toshiba Win8 notebook, I have a few suggestions.

Install Classic Shell (http://sourceforge.net/projects/classicshell/) or something similar so you can function without fiddling with the miserable Metro interface. To get back to a normal-looking desktop from anywhere, just press the Windows key.

You will still need to learn to use the "charms" and navigate Metro. Here is a Win8 tutorial that provides a reasonable start: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_E1UxI5I_jo

If your touchpad is like mine, there are no separate left and right click buttons, just markings on the pad itself. The entire pad is touch sensitive. You can still left and right click, but the cursor tends to move unexpectedly while you do so unless you are very careful. If you are a tablet user, you will already know about tapping instead of left/right clicking. If not, the easiest thing is to use a mouse. I like the Microsoft 4000 and 5000 wireless mice.

If you can't locate your BIOS, search for information on UEFI. If you want to boot from CD, you will have to do more than change the boot device series, for example by disabling secure boot or fast boot.

Good luck.

69 posted on 03/22/2013 8:34:18 PM PDT by TChad (Call them Oppressives, not Progressives.)
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To: TChad

I am a fan of using mouses with laptops. I will look into that classic shell. It might tie up a chunk of system resources

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_E1UxI5I_jo — explains a lot.


70 posted on 03/22/2013 9:09:42 PM PDT by dennisw (too much of a good thing is a bad thing --- Joe Pine)
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To: Travis McGee
I custom built a desktop machine. The motherboard is populated with 16 GB. Room to grow to 32 GB. CPU is an i7-2600k. Disk is a 2 TB SATAII. Also has solid state disk on another SATA channel. It is dual boot. Windows 8 Pro and Fedora 18 x86_64. When booted on Windows 8 Pro, I also have VMware Player installed to run Linux machines inside Windows 8. That works like a champ. Windows 8 is a bit funky, but fully usable. I have Windows 7 Enterprise with 8 GB RAM, 500 GB disk, i7-2600 CPU as my "company" laptop. That is a fine machine too. The "laptop" hosts VMware Player too, so my Linux machines are all VMs inside Windows.

You want some rotating disk for large scale storage. You also want SSD so the operating system runs damn fast. Make sure the SSD is fully error checked before you use it. Fast multi-core machines are often wasted waiting on show disk resources. A good SSD solves that problem.

71 posted on 03/22/2013 9:11:22 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: daniel1212

I have a desktop where the sound output has become erratic. I bought one of these $2 USB devices to bypass it. I leave it unplugged most of the time
http://www.ebay.com/itm/USB-2-0-to-3D-AUDIO-SOUND-CARD-ADAPTER-VIRTUAL-5-1-ch-High-Quality-New-EN24H-/120987665271?pt=US_Sound_Card_External&hash=item1c2b6d4377


72 posted on 03/22/2013 9:20:42 PM PDT by dennisw (too much of a good thing is a bad thing --- Joe Pine)
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To: Kirkwood

“You almost certainly need to have matching ram chips.”

Crucial will tell you what memory of theirs to buy. The memory I have bought from them has always been compatible.


73 posted on 03/22/2013 9:27:35 PM PDT by dennisw (too much of a good thing is a bad thing --- Joe Pine)
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To: daniel1212
The most tabs I have open is 60. You may? know you can get the “session manager” extension which allows you to crash Firefox via task manager (control+shift+escape) then recover exactly what you crashed. This strips off the bloated memory usage until the next time you repeat.
74 posted on 03/22/2013 9:33:59 PM PDT by dennisw (too much of a good thing is a bad thing --- Joe Pine)
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To: dennisw

The guy who sells us all our computer says Toshiba is one of the better brands around, not like the Chinese ‘garbage’ he sells us.


75 posted on 03/22/2013 9:38:45 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: Travis McGee

Well, Matt, sounds like a good little system. You’re welcome to come on down south and have a few beers while I fix it up for ya. $:-)


76 posted on 03/23/2013 4:31:36 AM PDT by Joe Brower (The "American People" are no longer capable of self-governance.)
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To: Myrddin

80% of what you wrote went right over my head. I’m just glad I have a better machine now, 50gb lasted my 5 years, so 500 should last forever, or until the asteroid strikes.


77 posted on 03/23/2013 5:14:24 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: adorno
It's actually not that hard to figure out.

Why do they make us to learn something new and forget what we have already learned each computer we get? I have been dealing with computers since the early 70’s so I suppose that if you just came into computers these pieces of crap are all you know and seem good. I hated XP and now I wish I could put it on my new puter. When you get older you hate each generation pulling the rug out form under you and laugh at you when you fall on your face. You really have no history of computers. So what is UI? Why is it necessary to change things every time a new kid comes into power?

78 posted on 03/23/2013 6:03:56 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: mountainlion

Checked out a few Tosibas at BB a few weeks ago. Even there mid line “L” series computers has a very spongy keyboard, to much flex for my liking.


79 posted on 03/23/2013 7:10:51 AM PDT by DAC21
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To: mountainlion

Actually, it is very simple to figure out.

And, Windows 8 is actually simpler to figure out than someone who starts out new with Windows 7 or XP.

The UI, or user interface, is simpler than what you found on Windows before, and, if you’re brand new to computers, and you started using Windows 8, you’d probably start wondering why people did things the old way with XP and Win7. It’s that much simpler and intuitive.

But, perhaps it is hard for old dogs to learn new tricks, but the tricks in Windows 8 are not that hard. IN fact, it’s a lot easier to use Windows 8 than learning how to use a new smartphone you’ve never used before, yet people don’t complain as much when they pick up a new smartphone.

BTW, I’ve been around computers since the late 1960s, starting out with the IBM mainframes, and I also worked with just about every mainframe and mini-computer that there was. I learned them all and learning new things wasn’t as much a chore as a challenge to want to learn new things.

I’m all for simplicity, and to me, the way Windows 8 does things, is the way it should’ve been from the beginning. The problem from the beginning is that, people didn’t have touch screens which required the new OS and the simplicity of the new “UI”.

It’s all a matter of tastes, and the willingness to put in a bit of time to learn some new things or new ways.


80 posted on 03/23/2013 9:50:30 AM PDT by adorno (Y)
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