Posted on 03/06/2013 1:26:12 PM PST by Perdogg
Sen Ted Cruz's mother was a US Citizen at the time of his birth, therefore he is nBC! He just said on Hannity he was a US Citizen at time of birth.
Huh? I'd not heard that about Cruz. Here's what I've seen from Sen. Cruz on that...
“I appreciate the good work that senators in both parties have put into trying to fix our broken immigration system. There are some good elements in this proposal, especially increasing the resources and manpower to secure our border and also improving and streamlining legal immigration. However, I have deep concerns with the proposed path to citizenship. To allow those who came here illegally to be placed on such a path is both inconsistent with rule of law and profoundly unfair to the millions of legal immigrants who waited years, if not decades, to come to America legally.”
Yes, McCain in my book was a NBC.
Of course, my book isn’t as authoritative as Vattel, except for its being based on Vattel.
Cruz served Texas honorably as Solictor General. He defended Texas before the Supreme Court, to keep the so-called International Court of in-Justice from interfering in the death sentences handed down against murderering foreign nationals, Medlin v Texas. He also clerked for Chief Justice William Rehnquist. Cruz is well-spoken, communicates conservatism effectively and fiercely defends the Constitution with vigor and enthusiasm. All qualities the next Republican presidential nominee will need in abundance.
You are correct, but there are many birthers who maintain that McCain was not “natural born” because he was born in Panama (even though both of his parents were U.S. citizens).
The purist birthers hold that you must be born in the U.S. to parents who are both U.S. citizens at the time of your birth.
There are variants. Some birthers are okay with your being born outside of the country to U.S. citizens as McCain was. A few birthers are okay with your being born in the U.S. to parents, one of which was a U.S. citizen at the time of your birth.
I believe that being born a U.S. citizen according to the Constitution is the same as being “natural born”. If you have always been a U.S. citizen since the second you were born, you are “natural born” irregardless of the status of your parents.
Sorry, I meant that as a reply to Post 12.
It does no such thing.
I agree. There are two natural law concepts that determine citizenship at birth, place and parentage. Any combination sufficient to be a natural born citizen is born a U.S. citizen with natural allegiance to the U.S.A.. The only other way to become a U.S. citizen to be “naturalized” into that state of natural allegiance.
Me too. Whatever we do, we have to unify fast. The money is obviously going to be behind Jeb.
It will be a great day for the USA when/if the government gets back to what it used to be and people are not looking to get around the Constitution and subvert it for personal political purposes or interpretations.
The Constitution mentions natural born citizens, those who were citizens at the time of the adoption of the Constitution, and naturalized citizens. It makes no mention of any other type of U.S. citizen.
So was Obama's.
C’mon, you know if he runs the Left will suddenly discover the “natural born” clause and raise a humongeous stink and sue if he wins (with John Roberts likely casting the fifth vote to toss him).
I thought we? Who, you and Karl Rove? That team?
I'm thanking God and my lucky Texas stars for Senator Ted Cruz!
A couple weeks back on Rush Limbaugh some liberal believed natural born meant the child was born vaginally. however a child born by c-section was not naturally born. I know the difference being a conservative and so forth. but thought to put the liberal view out there about natural born (sometimes ignorance is a real problem).
My records of Vattel writtings show his arguments were ‘The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens’. We must have different versions of what Vattel defined as ‘natural born’. Along with other readings about this Constitutional requirement I will consider my take on Vattel as being more rigidly accurate and appropriate.
OK, I got you. I just always assumed those who were citizens at the time of the adoption of the Constitution were a sub catagory of natural born citizens not seperate. Either way, we agree there are now only two types.
I believe Article 2, Section 1 of the US Constitution features national security provisions crucial to the long-term integrity and sovereignty of the United States of America.
What is the operative definition of 'natural born Citizen' in the context of the Constitution and on what do you base your answer?
Do you need me to find for you the section where he says that those born of soldiers serving their nation overseas are deemed to be born in country for such purposes?
What do I get when I find it for you? Will you admit you were wrong?
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