Coffee and cigarettes were essential to the founding of the art of programming.
Bummer.
It is probably because you are a higher statistical cost liability, both in benefit cost as well as potential lost time for health reasons.
If you had 2 people of equal experience and education applying for a job, both interviewed equally well, but one would cost your company several thousands more in benefit costs, it is logical you would hire the one who didn’t incur the increased expense.
Welcome to FR...
I don’t smoke. Never have. But I detest the demonization of smokers. I hate it. I don’t like the way they have been singled out for vilification. You see them slinking furtively around, now, seemingly ashamed.
And who could blame them?
well if the law says they can’t not hire you because you smoke, from a no-lawyer pov, it seems they just violated the law, and it appears you may have a winning case here, it seems blatant and obvious that as soon as you answered yes, she immediately said we can’t hire you if you smoke, clear causality right there.
it’s not like you would smoke at work anyway. so it hasn’t anything to do with you smoking in a clean room or a patient’s area, etc.
i would sue them. if they are this stupid they deserve it.
You still smoke? This isn’t the 70’s anymore. Get Nicorette moron!!!
As stated, I’d let the HR department know what happened - the interviewer should know better. Next time I’d say, I just quit. Leave it at that. I always quit before I enter an office/store/whatever. Start up again when I leave.
In Oregon you should have told them you smoked pot, not tobacco.
You’re in Oregon, be aware of the proposed law to (in essence) outlaw smoking. The law would classify cigarettes as a “controlled substance”. That means you cannot get them without a doctor’s prescription. I know, the irony! This is serious, in the legislature.
To pave the way to make it even easier to discriminate against smokers, a year or two past they made a law that anyone filling a prescription for any controlled substance, I mean legitimately rx’d by your medical doctor, the pharmacist reports you to the State and they are now keeping a database of all people who subscribe to Xanax or whatever. Cigs will be added to the list.
Yes, the govt, not just your pharmacy, will have your name, address, phone number, doctor, medical clinic and every single time you fulfill an Rx for cigs. If you exceed the 30-day renewal, I don’t know if State Troopers come out and arrest you or what...?
This seems to be to violate HIPPA, doctor-client privilege with your MD, and doctor-client privilege with your pharmacist... but I guess the needs of Big Brother overrule those notions.
That’s crazy. ALL of our IT guys smoke. It gives them an opportunity to go outside and stand in the sunshine. They go in herds. Those guys are so stressed out all the time. Who am I to criticize? They’ll probably all outlive the rest of us.
Oregon? Let's see, how about the following answer: "Yes. Marijuana ONLY!!" Next, you'll hear the following: "You're HIRED!!"
I’m the one who interviewed you and you are lying. Your smoking wasn’t the reason the interview ended. It was that “I heart Obama” tattoo on your chest that did the trick.
lie, lie, lie
Unless you believe smokers should be protected by Americans With Disabilities Act, an employer can deny you a job for being a smoker.
In a perfect libertarian world a company should have the right to hire or fire anyone they want for any reason they want. They should also have the right to choose their customers and to refuse service to anyone for any reason.
We have become so used to the government dictating who we can hire and who we can fire and who we can sell to and who we can buy from that we have lost all of our sense of Liberty.
You should applaud the company for having principles and refusing to hire you because they don’t like your looks, the color of your shirt or the smell you emit when you walk into a room of non-smokers.
Instead you apparently are looking for advice on how you can sue them for discrimination.
As an attorney I would advise you to look for work elsewhere.
As a liberty loving conservative I would advise you to send a letter to the company thanking them for having principles even though those principles conflict with your chosen lifestyle. Then tell them that if you are someday able to kick the smoking habit, that you would consider it an honor to come to work for them.
Welcome to FR. I am sorry to hear what happened to you.
If they broke the law go after them. These health Nazis should not be tolerated.
Lesson learned: they don’t deserve the truth. Libtards can’t handle it anyway.
Do not smoke hours before any interview, so they can’t smell it on you.
If you can’t quit smoking cold turkey, then try nicotine patch or e-cigarette. E-cigs will give you the nicotine intake, will not smell, and with time you can lower the nicotine dose until you will be able to quit.
An excellent forum with a lot of good, helpful people about e-cigarettes, and how to go about it is here:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/
Good luck.
Note: I am not affiliated with the e-cig forum.
This is total BS.
IBTZ.