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Please Pray For My Mom... and Advice-- Is this the Obama Death Panel in action? (Sad update #118)
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Posted on 01/06/2013 12:00:02 AM PST by MacMattico

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Please help! We've accepted she could choke on the feeding tube fluid, if that is true, but this doctor claims we will hurt her if we provide the feeding tube-- but it's going on weeks without proper food! She has only the no CPR on her DNR and no health care proxy (was always to a afraid to fill it out) but she has always expressed her feelings to the whole family in regard to nutrition and fluids.
1 posted on 01/06/2013 12:00:16 AM PST by MacMattico
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To: MacMattico

Move Her Now. Find Another Place. Get Another Doctor.


2 posted on 01/06/2013 12:07:22 AM PST by onona (KCCO)
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To: MacMattico

And get legal assistance ASAP!


3 posted on 01/06/2013 12:08:33 AM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: MacMattico; Texas Termite; .30Carbine; 68 grunt; 8mmMauser; admiralsn; Aggie Mama; al_c; ...

Logan’s Prayer Warriors...


4 posted on 01/06/2013 12:08:42 AM PST by Brad’s Gramma (Psalm 83)
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Ice chips put into her mouth. Chocolate pudding, fed carefully...there ARE ways of sneaking food into her body. Yes, I know she’s diabetic and shouldn’t have sugar. But still. GET CREATIVE.

She DOES need OUT of there....

I’d even go so far as to physically remove her to one of your homes.


5 posted on 01/06/2013 12:13:22 AM PST by Brad’s Gramma (Psalm 83)
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To: MacMattico

I agree with the others, move her tomorrow, or at least fire the doctor and get another.


6 posted on 01/06/2013 12:14:24 AM PST by Ditter
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Oh dear God.

I have no idea where you are, but please look into moving her now.

She needs another hospital and new doctors.

I’m praying right now.

If your family has a lawyer, call him now.

Were it me, I’d call the police right now, also.


7 posted on 01/06/2013 12:14:56 AM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: MacMattico

First - Here’s a prayer for your Mom - That God’s will be done and that she be held up in Jesus’ Holy Name.

Second - Your profile does not say what State you’re in. Not trying to be nosy, but trying to find local resources would be easier if we knew.


8 posted on 01/06/2013 12:19:04 AM PST by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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Mac, I’d make a schedule of some sort so that one of you is with her, 24/7.


9 posted on 01/06/2013 12:19:26 AM PST by Brad’s Gramma (Psalm 83)
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Summon your priest and tell him you’re in dire need and you’re going to sue. He might be able to talk some sense into those horrid people tending to your cherished mom.


10 posted on 01/06/2013 12:22:25 AM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: shibumi

Syracuse, NY


11 posted on 01/06/2013 12:27:08 AM PST by MacMattico
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To: MacMattico

Almighty Father, please heal and help MacMattico’s Mother, help the family obtain for her the care she needs, and surround her with Your angels to protect her from harm. Please, also, Almighty Father, tend to all their needs and send assistance their way. I ask this in the Name of Our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.


12 posted on 01/06/2013 12:38:39 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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If she is responsive, try to get her feelings on the matter. Many times older folks reach a point where they feel they've fought the good fight and are ready to hangup the gloves. If this isn't the case, get her into another hospital with different doctors and nurses.

DNRs do get changed and many doctors and nurses just don't seem as interested in doing all they can for elderly patients.

From experience, I can tell you outcomes depend a lot on how much fight the person still has.

I'm sorry you are going through this. I went through the same with my father and grandmother. It's hard.

God bless both of you and help you and your family through this trying time.

13 posted on 01/06/2013 12:38:39 AM PST by Errant
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If you aren't happy......CHANGE HOSPITALS!!!!!

I'm not there so you have to make the decisions. Do you have medical Power Of Attorney? If you don't have POA, you could be overruled and yes, they WILL kill her. The feeding tube is uncomfortable, but it won't kill her. Even if they don't want the one down the nose, they can put one thru the stomach wall if needed. Kidney shut down usually has a fever, check that. If they ever have to use dialysis, usually the kidneys won't start back on their own.

This all happened to my mother after a stroke. They just let her die. It's about money. You get a certain number of days in hospital, they you mover her to a nursing hospital for 21 days, NOT 22! On the 21 day, you must take her home or put her in a nursing home. When her money runs out, you go on medicaid. That's the normal scenario. I can't be forceful enough about this. IF YOU DON'T DO IT, NO ONE WILL! They are looking to get the bed back.

You must take positive action to find out what is being done, ask for another doctor's opinion, make sure you follow her vitals, Make sure you know what tests are done and what the results are. Look up the results on Google. Don't be fooled by the doctor. They are looking out for themselves and the hospital. Your mother is way down the list of their concerns.

It is hard to figure out if they are being reasonable, or just pulling the plug, especially when emotions are involved. My mother was cut loose from the nursing hospital in 21 days exactly and I only had about 4 hours to get her a nursing home. They had 4 bags of antibiotics on her in the hospital, but miraculously she didn't need any more on the 21st day. They cut her loose to go to the nursing home. She was dead in 7 days. I was with her all day and half the night, every day. The nurses acted as if everything was normal. Her kidneys shut down and she died of infection. She complained of thirst every day, but they said nothing by mouth. Supposedly she got fluids in her feeding tube. I'm not a doctor, but now we will never know. Her crime, ......she was a 3 time cancer survivor. IMO, they didn't want to spend anymore money on her at 80. She was healthy and getting better when she left the hospital. In the nursing home, it was downhill every day. She couldn't go back to the hospital for the same condition. All this goes unsaid till she dies.

I'm praying for you for wisdom and discernment, and for your mother to get a healing touch from God. God Bless.

14 posted on 01/06/2013 12:41:24 AM PST by chuckles
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Prayers for your mother and your family.


15 posted on 01/06/2013 12:46:26 AM PST by BlessedBeGod
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To: Smokin' Joe; MacMattico

Amen, in Jesus’ name.


16 posted on 01/06/2013 12:50:20 AM PST by thecodont
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Are you in a city /

The country?

Is medical care nearby or far away?

17 posted on 01/06/2013 12:52:15 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: Brad's Gramma

My sister is headed up there in a few hours and we’ll make a schedule, I know it probably sounds shallow but I have to get some sleep before I drop. I’m eating dinner at 3:44 am! Then I’m going back up to confront the doctor when he comes back on duty directly who is not only making the decision but telling three other doctors not to go against his instructions, I don’t know maybe they’re his interns. One of them had agreed with us and he must have over ruled her as she suddenly had a change of heart after speaking with him. A couple of the nurses totally agree with us and have been trying to feed her but she’s so sleepy it’s like she can’t stay
awake to eat. Our Priest is going to see her Monday morning, but depending on what happens today I may call him earlier. I will threaten to call the police or an attorney from the hospital and see what he says.

After that, if you hear of a woman being arrested at a hospital in Syracuse, NY for threatening a doctor, it will probably be me!


18 posted on 01/06/2013 12:53:44 AM PST by MacMattico
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Praying for your mother and her doctor. (working both ends)


19 posted on 01/06/2013 12:55:46 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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God bless you..and your Mom....

You DO need sleep and food for the upcoming fight.. You’ve gotten some great advice on here, including Googling vitals and not taking their word for it. Be a united front, you and your siblings. Stand together for her.

We’ll continue to pray for all if you!


20 posted on 01/06/2013 1:02:45 AM PST by Brad’s Gramma (Psalm 83)
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