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To: Twotone
Harsh aggression, he wrote, is "extremely rare" in nonhuman animals,

Marc is full of crap. I've had catz fight bad enough to require a trip to the vet.

Male lions kill the cubs that aren't theirs when they take over a pride.

I've watched squirrels kill each other.

I shared a pasture with 3 bulls for over a year, and one of them had to be sent to the butcher because of a broken leg sustained in a dominance battle with another bull.

Marc is full of crap.

Real life isn't like a Disney movie.

/johnny

4 posted on 01/05/2013 8:35:44 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Chimpanzee ambush and warfare in the wild.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7XuXi3mqYM


11 posted on 01/05/2013 9:02:36 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: JRandomFreeper
Harsh aggression, he wrote, is "extremely rare" in nonhuman animals,

You are most correct. I've seen hawks kill rabbits all day long, despite not eating them. And why will a cat torture a rodent to death for fun?

I saw a documentary that showed natures capability for killing for very base reasons beyond eating. In the documentary, a pack of hyenas came across lion cubs and killed them. Upon returning and finding the dead cubs, the male lions (which don’t usually hunt) pursued the hyenas for several days, caught up with them, and killed them all.

13 posted on 01/05/2013 9:05:17 AM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Chimp packs actually go to war with each other, and not just on the west and south sides of Chicago.


14 posted on 01/05/2013 9:12:54 AM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

[[Marc is full of crap. I’ve had catz fight bad enough to require a trip to the vet.

Male lions kill the cubs that aren’t theirs when they take over a pride.

I’ve watched squirrels kill each other.

I shared a pasture with 3 bulls for over a year, and one of them had to be sent to the butcher because of a broken leg sustained in a dominance battle with another bull.]]

Unfortunately you can not argue with people as ignorant as Marc- because they are always right and we are always wrong i ntheirm inds- no matter what yuo throw at them they always have some lame excuse to explain it away- peopel like marc woudl argue that these are all perfectly ligit actions and woudl probably even argue that it’s a moral imperative that these animals do those htigns you mentioend because after all, it’s ensuring that the most fit survive to pass along hte ‘superior genes’- these nutcases woudl even argue that the naimals make conscious moraL descisions to fight one another and that they sacrfice themselves in possible battles to the death just sop that the better fighter will have the chance to pass alogn hteir ‘superior genes’

Ylou’ll never win an argument with these insane people unfortyunately- Even peopel like ken miller claim that human morality is nothign more than a virus passed along via colds when peopel cough durign hte colds- that’s how lost to reality these sick peopel really are- They are desperately tryign to prove that only nature cousdl have provided ‘true morality’ while the universal moral code we ALL abide by in one form or antoher htroughout hte world is nothign but a virus that is deceivign innocent people- peopel like Ken and marc are truly sick people- They are desperate to try to prove there is no God, and that God is not respopnsible for the universal moral code that we all abide by seemingly ‘instinctively’


15 posted on 01/05/2013 9:13:27 AM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Unbelievable, eh?

Anyone who spends a few minutes even watching wild animals will note how they are ALWAYS in a defensive posture, unless they are already fighting or flighting!

This Kumbaya stuff - not sure where it comes from. Maybe Disney. Maybe childrens books, where the princess takes the thorn out of the lions paw, and the lion is eternally grateful for one of the best lunches he ever had!

This jerk needs to be chained to a tree overnight in my backyard... possible cougars, definite coyotes, once in a while a brown bear...

First possum that wanders by and he’d dump a load way bigger than the scat piles I see...


16 posted on 01/05/2013 9:17:00 AM PST by djf (Conservative values help the poor. Liberal values help them STAY poor!!!)
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