When and how and why did Americans allow the government to do government schools? And even now many Americans think it is great to have government schools. I ‘ve had debates with idiots that have attacked me verbally for daring to talk against the government schools.
I’d like to know the history of government schools. this was one of the seeds of socialism in the U.S. imo
Thoughts on this thread?
Isn't it **rational** to resist being treated like a prisoner when one’s only crime was to be born?
This is not good for the kids who had to serve time in an adult lockup.
It is not good for the children who compliantly remain in school to know of this police, court, and hard-time prison threat.
It is not good for children who are comfortable in their prison-like school to be forced by the state to assemble with those children who aren't compliant. ( First Amendment human right to free assembly.)
Did the peoplke responding in this thread even watch the video? The responses are acting like the school is just sending kids on a field trip to a prison to punish innocent kids. These kids are chronicly skipping school and engageing in criminal activity like breaking into houses etc. according to the video. Bottom line is if they were doing the right thing, they wouldn’t have anything to worry about. One of the last people they mentioned was a 14 year old girl that got sentenced for 3 days or ao, also with her mother as her nmother tried to FORGE a doctors note. I say good, maybe it will teach this trash a lesson.
Condition response at an early age the government can throw you in jail for almost any thing.
When I was a teen, I skipped school once. I was driving down the road with a friend and when I glanced into the rearview mirror, I happened to see my last name spelled backward. Looking up at the driver, I saw my dad driving one of our business trucks. He pointed very firmly toward the school and followed me there. Once I arrived back at the school, he walked me into the principal’s office.
...I never skipped school again.
I have removed my son from school, because of the way the teachers were treating him. They were abusive and I called them on it, and took my child back. The teacher my son had, had her own child in class and would publicly humiliate her own child, in front of his peers. She would ask him to stand in the front and ask questions, in front of the class, that she knew he didn’t know the answer to- refused to allow classmates to help him, and then mock him for not knowing the answer.
I suspect she was a drunk, based upon the rambling and incoherent emails I got from her, and the way she graded my son’s papers, at night. During the day, a different person- yet wildly passive aggressive still.
The principal threatened me, for saying that I thought humiliating her own child in front of my child , was child abuse. He threatened ME, that there could be a lawsuit for such a claim and he would refuse to hear me about it.
Very subversive and nasty people.
That was week 3 of school. I didn’t wait for them to do serious damage, either. Move fast to protect your child.
That’s why schools today look like prisons. Because they are run in much the same way. Attending Middle School and High School in many places is less safe than being in prison, though.
I expect the prison-like conditions of our nation’s schools will grow worse. It will have consequences in a few years in the voting booth.
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I agree , but I see it as a huge negative , it will breed docile compliant robots that will vote for even more of this cr*p as to then it is normal ,, “like home”.
I have to disagree. Judges have been intermittently treating truancy as misdemeanor offense since compulsory education was enacted (first in Massachusetts in 1852 and last in Mississippi in 1917). And the rationale for this is much more complex than pure statism.
To begin with, minor children are *not* free citizens, and in many ways, in the eyes of the law, they are chattels(1) of their parents or legal guardians.
(1) Chattal. Personal as opposed to real property; any tangible movable property (furniture or domestic animals or a car, etc.)
Public, private and religious schools have long fit into the legal status of “alma mater”(2), where they are temporarily, legally, given custody of children. This means that they are in many ways liable for the conduct on school grounds, or under some circumstances, off school grounds; as much as a dog owner can still be responsible if their dog escapes and runs free.
(2) Latin, “fostering mother”.
Schools however do not have full parental control of students in many ways, and courts have, in recent decades, recognized that students do maintain at least partial civil rights in US law, in school and even at home.
But, just as schools have both authority and responsibility, just as when dogs escape and run free, the local community laws come into effect. And this applies as much for children as it does for dogs.
As such, many communities have decided that minor children at large during school hours need to be controlled, so such communities have enacted daylight curfews of school age children. In effect, truant students may be considered as runaways.
And this is the basis of truancy laws.
Importantly, in the case shown on the video, several other factors come into play. The first is that these students were old enough so that they fit into revised laws that allow “minors to be tried as adults.”
Second, that they were repeat offenders. They had received lesser penalties and warnings that if they continued to be truant, they would get more strident punishment.
Third, and importantly, these were public school students. Had they been private or religious school students, or home taught students, they would have been under very different rules.
The only exception to this situation is that they mentioned a student who was 18 years old. Unless his state is different than most, once a student turns 18, whether or not he is in school, he cannot be considered truant, as he is legally an adult in most ways, and thus automatically has all of his civil rights.
Right. Imagine what would have happened to Mark Twain or Thomas Edison-—what “lessons” and Virtues would have been drilled into them for skipping school? Bet it would have really affected the mind of Lincoln who skipped school his entire life.
Teaching Virtue has been the ONLY purpose of school according to Plato—up until the Fabian Socialist, John Dewey. Destroy Virtue and you collapse society—the search for Truth (God) always ends in an Age of Reason. This is known by the Cultural Marxists who invaded the USA in the 1930’s. It is easy to research.
Forced schooling to destroy the Virtue and individuality and intellect of children was installed by the Fabian Socialist John Dewey by 1930 to intentionally dumb down and brainwash the independent Americans. Wundt’s psychology in the 1800’s knew that if you controlled educational systems, you control the minds of the masses in a generation. You can flip beliefs.
Public Schools are run by a bunch of hard core Marxists-—curricula written by people worse than Billy Ayers inserting BF Skinner psychology to condition and brainwash children with their Prussian system to create drones-—”group think” and deChristianize our nation and create dependency on authority figure for all information. Sets up the Big Brother gives permission for every aspect of life—even going potty.
Why do they attack true Christianity (not the Marxist-type lesbian pastored churches which are the same as Liberation Theology churches—State is god)? Christianity is about Truth and Individual Rights—all people have worth—Collectives are evil—they dehumanize people and make them expendable. They can’t get abortion, homosexual “marriage” until they corrupt the masses—and eliminate morality—destroy Virtue. Cultures can NOT be free when Virtue is gone (Plato and Founders knew this)-—and they are collapsing culture like they did in the Weimar Republic and in Ancient Rome, etc.
This actually destroys the independent, individualism which created America and made us exceptional. It conditions and brainwashes children to just do what they are told and to be greatly influenced by what the “group” thinks. They use humiliation in the classroom to make those exceptional children who come from Christian homes to conform to “group” pressure. They have designed curricula to target beliefs and incorrect attitudes (like those who think it is creepy for men to sodomize other men).
The people who control curricula and all influential institutions are Satanists and need to corrupt and pervert children to flip their Christian Ethics which took thousands of years to ingrain-—now, with the help of the Hollywood pederasts (Corey Feldman’s statement) promoting sodomy and degenerate, evil behaviors on TV 24/7 to destroy all relationships (esp. between men and women and children), schools are —as Lenin had said-—the easiest way to get control over a generations “Worldview”——but NOW they are really literally sodomizing the children-—not just their minds.
History shows all these Fabian Socialist, Bolsheviks, One Worlders, Muslim Brotherhood lovers, Nazis Bohemian Grove types are all sodomites and worshippers of homosexual “marriage”. Prisons promote their behaviors and religion. It is the easiest way to destroy worldview of children—to see men lust after one another—(like in Afghanistan)—so that Christian Ethics are totally obliterated in one generation.
This is their way to normalize pederasty and sodomy (like in Afghanistan)—which they are doing through APA and UN organizations-—to bring us back to paganism/occultism/Satanism—the religions of the Kissinger-types who have engaged in horrific orgies—worshipping Baal—even before John Maynard Keynes (Fabian Socialist) was glorified at Harvard in early 1900’s even though it was common knowledge that he was a pederast and used boys in orgies all the time with all his homosexual buddies who held positions of power in universities and publishing companies, etc. They had power to “influence” not only curricula, but attitudes of the masses back in early 1900’s—especially when these guys took total control of Hollywood and Russia.
I support his thinking but there are two problems:
1. They don’t want to go to school and while there, they will succeed only in distracting people who REALLY want to learn.
2. Schools get paid more when students simply exist there; the report finished by chirping, “The Judge’s actions have boosted attendance...!” I smell the influence of a Teacher’s UNION here —this might be about tax money flowing to failed schools.
Ya might want to tune in to A & E right now, they’re showing “Beyond Scared Straight”........
Hopefully they will be scarred straight.
Why are communities demanding that 18 year old young men ( whose only crime was to be born) attend prison-like school where they are treated in many ways like a state prisoner? Why should a community do to this to a 17 year old or to any child of any age? These children have committed no crime but the state treats them like prisoners in their prison-like state schools.
Well truancy is a crime. If you are enrolled in a school and do not attend you are truant., Now there are other options such as homeschooling or private schools, but if you are enrolled and do not attend you are a criminal.