Posted on 01/03/2013 6:36:29 PM PST by BenLurkin
Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev’s off-air comments that Russian Presidents are given a secret file about extraterrestrials living among us created much media interest. Most news reports claimed that Medvedev was simply joking. His apparent reference to the Men In Black movie as a source of information on a super secret agency that monitors extraterrestrials on Earth was commonly cited as key evidence that he was in fact joking. The reasoning is that no political leader would refer reporters to a comedy to clarify national policy. It has now emerged that Medvedev was not referring to the Men in Black comedy after all, but to a recent Russian television documentary titled “Men in Black” that reveals many details about an extensive cover up of extraterrestrial life visiting Earth.
However, a more accurate translation of what Medvedev actually said about the Men in Black phenomenon was: “You can receive more detailed information having watched the documentary film of the same name.” So Medvedev was referring to a Russian “documentary film” titled Men in Black, not the Hollywood blockbuster by the same name...
Russian Men In Black (MIB) documentary, a number of prominent UFO cases in Russia and the USA are discussed. The Roswell UFO crash is covered, along with a number of extraterrestrial abduction cases, and UFOs disabling nuclear weapons facilities. The documentary examines testimony that extraterrestrial bases have been established on Earth, and that some are in restricted US military areas with the full knowledge of the Pentagon. The documentary even goes on to seriously discuss President Eisenhower’s alleged meeting with extraterrestrials, where agreements were reached with some of the visitors giving them permission to take some of the Earth’s resources in exchange for advanced technology...
(Excerpt) Read more at exopolitics.org ...
Thank you for the explanation, I did not know that.
some Bishops will grant an exception for St. Patrick’s Day celebrations.
More likely the Irish Bishops? ;-)
Precisely. Which is why I have no problem with a "good" God allowing so much suffering in the world. He doesn't define "good" as "pain free" or "posh." We do that.
Francis Chan likes to take a long, long rope and paint the last 2 inches red and say, "If this rope is the span of your eternity, this red part is your life on earth. Why are you focused on the red part instead of the rest?"
Like I said, it's good food for conversation. That one's already begun.
Interesting. Since the bodies were made whole, that is, "as they were meant to be," what would that imply to a circumcised Jew. If circumcision were from man it would be one answer. If it were from God, it might be another answer.
From the POV of the story, I never thought about it before now. I don't think I'll include the story so the issue becomes obvious. :)
He also stopped because, where he was, healing was no longer necessary.
Whatever you do, don't tell Governor Cuomo.
Drawing a long horizontal line on an 8’+ wide blackboard, and marking a little dot in the center of it would be more accurate. To the left is life before you came here, the dot is your entire life, and to the right is your Eternity.
This is, of course, for those who believe there was “something” before we arrived on Earth and will be “something” after. For everyone else, our existence and Eternity are about the extent of conscious thought. There are those, however, who want to know where we came from, and why, and what, and ... and ... and....
And then there are those who feel there was nothing before us and there will be nothing after us. And my question to those folks is: Then, why are we here?
There answer is "There is no why."
I personally believe humans have everlasting life, but the only eternal life we have is God's life imparted to us. That is, I have a beginning, although I will have no end.
I have a few ideas about discussing the existence of "supernature" to naturalists, but it depends on why they are naturalists. As to whether or not there is a God, I think the most powerful visible testimony in these days is the modern State of Israel.
Plastic!
*Jumping in to the middle of a conversation*
Cogito ergo sum. I think therefore I am.
We are here because we are here.
It’s circular logic at it’s worst, but asking “why” we are here is a nonsensical question to begin with. Whether we were created and dump here or came about because of abiogenesis really doesn’t matter.
What matters is that we are here and what we do with it.
Personally, I believe in an after-life. Seems and awful waste of energy and information otherwise. The Universe doesn’t operate like that, from what we’ve seen so far.
*Jumping back out again*
:-)
Also New York bishops, iirc.
What matters is that we are here and what we do with it.
I think "why" is an important question.
For example, if we are here to worship God, and part of worshiping Him is emulating His nature as best we can understand it, we will make far different choices for today than if we are here simply to consume until we ourselves are consumed.
Similarly, the definition of a "good" society might be radically different. If we are here simply to consume until we ourselves are consumed, then a society that protects the weak is immoral as it eventually weakens the strong.
It's a good question to ask and answer, at least as a guide to your own actions.
If you are wrong, He/She/It is going to be rather pissed off at you.
I don't think the Gods care any more about what labels we put to them than we care about what labels ants give us. Quantifying something as staggeringly, mind-numbingly huge as a Deity with merely human labels it preposterous.
Fighting multi-Epoc spanning theological wars over differentiation in Faith also seems to defeat the purpose of using “faith” as a yard stick for your existence as well.
Each of us exists here to experience life. When we die, we take that information into the afterlife with us. A piece of us will always remember being us and will always BE us.
Higher beings, mathematically speaking on an Infinite timescale, exist that are further along in “life” and no longer need to come back here to “live”. These are “Gods”. They can go anywhere, do anything, be anything, create, love, destroy...
But what does that matter to us? When was the last time you visited the ant hill in the park across from that big oak tree and try to hand down commandments to the inhabitants?
“God's life imparted to us,” is (to me) “God's Love imparted to us.”
I believe in God. If I stripped all human ideologies out of the equation, all I would have to do is look at the stars in the universe, and recognize that they did NOT come into being on their own. The universe is orderly, and the laws of physics demand that it be so.
Our universe, or galaxy, is only one of billions. God says the worlds were greater than the grains of sand on all the beaches of the world. I believe it. The photos we have access to concerning space tell us that we are not alone, and we are here because we have a purpose. We are lucky if we find that purpose in this life. But that doesn't mean we should waste the life in idle pursuits. There is so much to learn, and really, when push comes to shove, the only thing that "goes with us" into the Afterlife is our intelligence.
Jumping into a conversation makes for lively conversations!
Thanks! Yes, I agree with your conclusions. But they don’t have to be “the end.”
I for one, would like to believe that we continue to learn things once we pass beyond Earth. I mean, there is so much I will never know, either because of my personal circumstances, my ability to comprehend, or my limited capacity to find a starting point.
We use only about 10% +/- 5% of our brain’s capacity, so what is the other 85%-90% for, if not for more knowledge?
:o]
There are answers to all of your questions, but answering them all would take more writing than most on the UT want to read. If you're interested in going after one, feel free to FReepmail me.
Yah. Like that.
Civilizations/cultures throughout time and the world have had a “central deity” that they “created” because they couldn't explain the things that happened to them any other way. A lot of these even had a “trinity” of sorts, with a major god or goddess, and two minor gods/goddesses with differing roles, but part of the major idea.
Not unlike today, though I have to think of Islam, and it being more of a political/cultural movement than a “religion.” Some "religions" are "mandatory" and others are not. We are fortunate to live in a place where we are free to choose.
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