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To: metmom
Socialist.

OK please read what I am typing.
My wife is a teacher. She primarily deals with special needs children and the children who are far behind grade level so we have a birds eye view of what is real, true, and factual. The children who are far behind are most often the result of home schooling failures. They are mandated back into the public schools and written off the books on the home schooling organization as if they never existed. What a way to keep a good average.... Most of the parents who teach their kids at home are not college educated. That is a myth.
What you say about high school kids teaching themselves has some truth to it but you have ignored the fact that many of them take a lot of adult supervision to keep them on track. They lack the self discipline to work independently. This is not the fault of the teachers it is the fault of the parents for not teaching them to sit down, shut up, respect others, and pay attention to the teachers. If they can not or will not teach their children these things makes you think they can teach high school math or science?
We are very connected to the UC Calif college system. I don't mean to break your bubble but the kids who do the best in college are not the home schooled kids. The Asian kids who go through the public schools you are putting down far out score and out perform all the rest. What does this indicate? The Asian kids have far more structure, supervision, and much better goals established than their peers. So it is all about parenting not so much about the teachers. There is value in home schooling if the person doing the teaching is qualified and able to teach. There are a lot of teachers out there who have the education but are really crappy teachers. The goal has to remain that our kids get a good education. When you stray from that goal to support your religious beliefs or ego you are making a huge mistake and it is the children who will pay the price. All parents should be able to teach their kids a belief system but few of them can teach chemistry or trig.

43 posted on 11/30/2012 3:30:43 PM PST by oldenuff2no
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To: oldenuff2no

Some school districts have a 40% attrition rate, 40% of the kids do not even graduate.

So what do we do about the public school failures?

Are they mandated to be homeschooled?

What makes you think that most of homeschool parents are not college educated? Got stats for that somewhere?

Because that sure isn’t what I’ve seen in my 12 years of homeschooling with involvement with three different homeschool support groups.


48 posted on 11/30/2012 4:00:01 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: oldenuff2no

Liar. You don’t even use proper grammar or understand the usage of paragraphs.


50 posted on 11/30/2012 4:05:51 PM PST by Fledermaus (The Republic is Dead: Collapse the system. Let the Dems destroy the economy!)
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To: oldenuff2no

I don’t know how many homeschooled students you have encountered, but as a homeschool parent, in the past 17 years, I’ve come across literally hundreds of families. The vast majority of homeschooled students around here do very well. Around here, many (if not most) are taking college courses by their “high school” years (ages 15, 16, 17).

Unlike the comedy video, we don’t “play school” at home. We parents might help the kids reach a certain point, but eventually they have to learn the subjects on their own. One of my sons taught himself Algebra and Biology. All I did was give him the books. Learning on your own requires self-discipline and independence. This particular son tested at college level and started college courses at 16 - which is late compared to many other homeschoolers. But the college counselor told us: the vast majority of high school graduates aren’t testing at the level where my self-taught 16yo son is.

Also, homeschooled students have classes once or twice a week at cooperatives where some classes are taught by “professional teachers” but most by parents themselves who are well-versed in a subject - for example, one year, a medical doctor taught biology; an attorney taught law; and so on. I can appreciate the job dedicated teachers do, but those parents were able to share their life experience with the students.

Do homeschooled students ever fall behind in their studies? Sure. But, they catch up later. I have a son who is very active. In school, active boys are medicated - I’m so glad I kept him out of school!

As a side note: I looked into private/parochial schools, but the tuition was too expensive. For a year, I was very ill, but I did not enroll them into school - I kept homeschooling because I knew that, if I put them in school, and if they had fallen behind (as kids with an ill mother sometimes do), someone at the school would’ve been snotty about it and used it against homeschooling. So, we stuck with homeschooling. So glad I did!


60 posted on 11/30/2012 8:52:54 PM PST by Tired of Taxes
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