[metmom]

Didn’t it used to have to be that you had to be a property owner?

I could see that, or requiring military service or having a job.

But you know that now the chance for that is long gone.

It’ll NEVER happen under this regime.

[Cronos]

a Property owner can be a person who didn't earn the right on their own. I can name any number of rich kids who are leftists -- in fact if you read through history you'll see that many were actually from the upper classes.

The lessons in history are clear -- when the Roman republic had a "you gotta be in the army" replaced with "we'll give you free bread for doing nothing", they started relying more on mercenaries

Take something closer in time -- the ending of the draft gave a number of people no sense of gratitude

Let me put it this way -- we are saying no to further immigration, but I would prefer having skilled immigrants who WANT to be American rather than kids here who did nothing but were born American and think they have the right to burn the flag.