Posted on 11/06/2012 8:49:23 PM PST by HamiltonJay
Okay, I was wrong so I'm done tryin to call elections. 4 years from now I am just going to say nothing.
How anyone can fail so fully and win re-election is beyond me.
Obviously America is becoming a nation of takers and not makers.
So flame away. I was wrong, horribly so, so go ahead and take your shots.
Demography people.....I’ve said over & over you can’t have this level of massive immigration without it backfiring. And yes...too much LEGAL immigration. In any case there’s no going back.
-PJ
The empty-headed takers in this country - those waiting for their “Obama stash” - will bankrupt it, then riot, loot, and burn the cities they live in because there’s no money left for the government to print or steal from the producers and makers.
European socialism got a beachhead in 2008. It’s solidly entrenched with this election now, and it’s just a matter of time before we look like France and Greece. The problem is, Obama’s agenda has made it virtually impossible for any fiscal conservative ever to win again because no one will vote for someone who threatens to take their gub’mint handouts away. This is, at its heart, what the Marxist/Socialist agenda was from the start: make so many people dependent on government handouts that no one would ever vote for fiscal responsibility again.
Next on the agenda: destroy the rich.
Welcome to the gulag, comrades.
We lost more than an election tonight. We lost the republic.
You were not wrong, you just underestimated the power of the democrat machine. They stole this election. More than likely thru the voting machines controlled by George Soros.
It just isn’t meant to be. I’m one who believed the American people wanted to rise above a subservience posture toward big government and embrace freedom.
Damn, was I wrong...
It’s just a different American landmass in which we live.
You and me both. I’ve been telling everyone, confidently, that this would be a R/R landslide. I’ve never been more wrong about a Presidential Election in my life. No more predicting for me...time for bullets & butter, I fear.
I can’t argue with you there.
Well I read the polls wrong also, cosmically bad job by me.
I find it interesting how Obama is getting JUST enough votes in all the swing states.
No apology needed. All you are guilty of was having some faith in the American people. A people who do not deserve anyone’s faith anymore.
You know what HamiltonJay, you gave me hope in 2008 and you did it in 2012. I’m not discounting what a disaster another 4 years of Obammy is going to be, but there really are only two choices: you move forward (not Obama style over the cliff) or you end it all. Maybe tomorrow I’ll feel like ending it all, but tonight I want to move forward. Thanks for all you did in 2008 and 2012.
Thank you for the kind words. I really believed the polls were fatally flawed, and that the Republican enthusioasm would prevail.
In 2016 the Pubbies had better run a real conservative. If that real conservative doesn't get elected, time to think about splitting up the country. As it stands, the takers now outnumber the producers. All the maladjusted infants who live in mommy's basement playing with their x-boxes 24-7 and hoping for gov. freebies are now in charge.
It’s frustrating, especially because it’s hard to imagine a Republican winning with an economic record like O’s—even if they could partially pawn it off on a predecessor. I think conservatives got caught up focusing on turnout projections and failed to acknowledge the shifting demographics Dems always crow about. Every year the country gets more Hispanic. Every year kids turn 18 holding more liberal social values, if not outright hostility to religion—often replaced by uncritical faith in environmentalism. I think just the plain fact the population is growing period favors the trend toward euro-socialism. These changes are less visible in non-Presidential elections because we can fight it with activist turn out but when it comes to the big show we just run out bodies. Add that to the fact Obama has a strong celeb appeal to low info voters, devoted protection from the bulk of the media, a popular ex-prez to help him campaign while we had to keep Bush in the shed, and a “just tax the rich more” message based on peddling government goodies to people who are less and less likely to concern themselves with how our nation will foot the bill, . Plus booting an incumbent is just hard. Clinton needed Perot’s interference to beat H.W. Bush.
However, don’t forget this thing was still pretty close. Numerous random variables played a role and could have turned it.
But please, no more kooky relligions.
You weren’t wrong, we all saw the huge crowds out there for Romney, tell me this election was fair & square!
No poop. I read through the freeper prediction thread and very few predicted less than 300 EV. I knew that the facts only told us that Romney could squeak by or win somewhat assuredly, or Obama could squeak by. Nothing else was sure.
And I was annoyed because the very few who were unsure or predicted an Obama win were practically castrated for their “negativity.” Everyone did the same here for McCain. There is a difference between factual optimism and pooping rainbow skittles.
Ultimately there is a need for people to do what you and others did. Whether it happens to turn out to be right or not is another matter, but we need those who are willing to stand up and project confidence (backed up by reasonable arguments) that we can win this thing.
Elections often come down to who has more energy. And even though the polls were moving against us at the end, there was a legitimate feeling that our energy, which was helped along by you and others like you, would propel us to victory despite what the pundits were saying. Unfortunately the ground game on the other side really was as strong as they boasted. Of course they probably had to prod a large portion of their people to turn out, while ours were much more eager, but in the end it all counts the same.
As my dad told me, George McGovern had big crowds near the end too.
Anyone else going out to buy guns tomorrow?
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