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To: rustbucket
rusty: "As my post pointed out, none of Lincoln's many pronouncements of the suspension of the writ were made when Congress was in session..."

Yes, I did miss that point, and it is interesting to note.
But it does not change the more salient fact I pointed out, namely, that once Congress returned in July 1861 it had every opportunity to censure or revoke Lincoln's actions, and chose not to.

Indeed, all of Congress' serious debates on this subject involved the question of precisely how to indemnify and authorize various suspensions of habeas corpus.
These debates ended with a compromise signed into law by Lincoln in March 1863.

rusty: "You forgot to mention this bill [Congressional Globe, May 12, 1862, page 2070, remarks by Mr. Shellabarger, a Lincoln supporter, my emphasis below]: "

I've not read of that anywhere else, and searching for your reference did not produce results.
Doubtless, it did happen, but context is everything and so far I can't find anything on that.

rusty quoting 1862 Congressional Globe:

And with such friends as the British minister, the London Times, Jefferson Davis and Copperhead Vallandigham, why would any bill in Congress have needed enemies?
I would suggest to you rusty, that any such bill was submitted as a joke, and was properly treated as such.

186 posted on 10/28/2012 3:54:38 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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To: BroJoeK
[me]: You forgot to mention this bill [Congressional Globe, May 12, 1862, page 2070, remarks by Mr. Shellabarger, a Lincoln supporter, my emphasis below]:

[you]: I've not read of that anywhere else, and searching for your reference did not produce results.
Doubtless, it did happen, but context is everything and so far I can't find anything on that.

It took me about three minutes to find the bill in question. It was H.R. 170 of the 37th Congress, 2nd Session. The copy of it I found has a date of December 23, 1861, and it was introduced by Vallandigham.

Here's a link to it: A Bill to regulate and enforce the writ of habeas corpus, and for the better securing the liberty of the citizen

188 posted on 10/28/2012 7:44:10 AM PDT by rustbucket
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