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To: BroJoeK

You posted a lot of stuff but never recovered from the fact that the entire argument here is a logical fallacy. Nothing you posted PROVED they cross-breaded, just more logical fallacies, assumptions and theories. We share DNA with bananas too - does not mean we bred with them. This argument is like saying because a Chevette and a Cadillac share some of the same components that the Cadillac evolved from the Chevette.

Posting other logical fallacy arguments from other people does not fix the fatal logic flaw of the original issue. It just shows there is dishonesty in some people seeking grant money.


119 posted on 10/07/2012 8:36:05 AM PDT by Mechanicos (When did we amend the Constitution for a 2nd Federal Prohibition?)
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To: Mechanicos
Mechanicos: "You posted a lot of stuff but never recovered from the fact that the entire argument here is a logical fallacy.
Nothing you posted PROVED they cross-breaded, just more logical fallacies, assumptions and theories."

First of all, there is no "logical fallacy" -- zero, zip, nada -- in reporting what some scientific researchers hypothesize.

Second, here you've made a gaudy display of knowing basics of "logical fallacies", but you obviously know nothing about science.
In science, nothing outside a mathematical theorem is ever formally "PROVED".

Instead, scientists make confirmed observations ("facts") help form hypothetical explanations, which are used to design experiments and predictions that can falsify or confirm the hypothesis.
A confirmed hypothesis is called a "theory".

So basic evolution ( = descent with modifications plus natural selection) is a many-times confirmed hypothesis, making it a scientific theory, and in some opinions also a confirmed observation, which would make it a fact.

By contrast, speculations on possible human/Neanderthal interbreeding are considered hypotheses, albeit recently supported by very sophisticated DNA analyses plus observations of similar ancient and modern physical characteristics.

Of course you or anyone else are free to accept or reject these hypotheses, for whatever reasons.
And you can be certain that, over time, many other scientists will attempt to duplicate the most recent work and they may or may not arrive at similar conclusions.
Indeed, that's the essence of what science is and does.
It's what makes science so interesting and exciting for those with a scientific mind-set.

Of course, other people absolutely hate it -- the very idea (!) that some scientist somewhere could perform some experiment and instantly prove that whatever you previously believed is now wrong just upsets them to no end, they can't abide it!
They won't accept it!
To *ell with science, if it disagrees with my beliefs! ;-)

But I love it, and it bothers me not at all if every hypothesis cannot eventually be confirmed as theory, and if every theory cannot be observed as fact.

What's so exciting to me is how much more is understood today than when I first learned science in grade-school.

Machanicos: "Posting other logical fallacy arguments from other people does not fix the fatal logic flaw of the original issue.
It just shows there is dishonesty in some people seeking grant money."

All of the dishonesty I've seen on these threads comes from anti-evolutionists.
Nearly all refuse to confess the simple truth of the matter, which is that they deny certain scientific theories, hypotheses and even facts because those don't conform to their unique interpretations of Biblical texts.

120 posted on 10/07/2012 9:37:14 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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