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To: ravenwolf
ravenwolf: "I don,t know enough about this dna stuff to even discuss it but the way varmintman talks the Neanderthals would have to have been here between six and seven thousand years ago."

We don't know when the last Neanderthals died, but the most recent possible bones are dated around 24,000 years old.
This was after some 20,000 years of human-Neanderthal coexistence in Europe.

No one knows exactly what killed the Neanderthals, and many ideas have been proposed, but there is no physical evidence on Neanderthals more recent than 24,000 years ago.

ravenwolf: "Or else the ones they call the Neanderthals were actually human and nothing else."

Please remember that scientific words like "species" "sub-species" "genus", etc., are all matters of definition, and that there is really no hard and fast line separating them.
By scientific definition we say that two "sub-species" have become separate "species" when they no longer successfully interbreed in the wild, but even such a simple definition has exceptions.
For example, by any reasonable classification, polar bears and brown bears are clearly separate species, and yet they do occasionally interbreed in the wild.

And that may even serve as a model to explain human & Neanderthal interactions.

ravenwolf: "I do not trust environmentalists and i do not trust the evolution scientist who are trying to prove there is no God, if they don,t have one that is fine."

No real scientist ever attempts to "prove" there is no God, because by definition it cannot be done scientifically.
So whoever says such things is not speaking scientifically, but rather philosophically, or religiously.

Yes, everyone is entitled to their opinion, and everyone has one, but opinions about God are not scientific and anyone who claims they are is not speaking truthfully.
So you can ignore them, FRiend.

95 posted on 10/02/2012 4:53:44 PM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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To: BroJoeK

No one knows exactly what killed the Neanderthals, and many ideas have been proposed, but there is no physical evidence on Neanderthals more recent than 24,000 years ago.


That was also my point, most Christians believe in there being one creation, which started with Adam and Eve almost seven thousand years ago.

I believe the bible speaks of God making man on the sixth day as being the creation, it says these are the generations in which everything was created, not literal days but thousands of years.

It was after this that God made Adam and Eve.

So if the creation is the way it appears to me from reading about it in the Bible then it would have been possible for man and the Neanderthals to live at the same time, and it might even explain the missing link, but like i said i don,t put much stock in every thing that is called science.


97 posted on 10/02/2012 5:59:42 PM PDT by ravenwolf
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