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To: BroJoeK; null and void; ravenwolf
o varmintman well knows the truth, and yet continues to post utter rubbish, beginning with his very first claim — that Neanderthal DNA is “half way between human and chimpanzee”.

Calling that one a lie makes YOU a liar:

http://www.expressindia.com/fe/daily/19970712/19355423.html

He said his team ran four separate tests for authenticity - checking whether other amino acids had survived, making sure the DNA sequences they found did not exist in modern humans, making sure the DNA could be replicated in their own lab and then getting other labs to duplicate their results. Comparisons with the DNA of modern humans and of apes showed the Neanderthal was about halfway between a modern human and a chimpanzee.

http://www.d.umn.edu/cla/faculty/troufs/anth1602/video/On_Trial.html

Timeline: 1997 isolated Neandertal DNA Neandertals are almost exactly halfway between the chimpanzee and modern humans

91 posted on 10/02/2012 9:34:24 AM PDT by varmintman
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http://www.plosbiology.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pbio.0020057

The retrieval of mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) sequences from four Neandertal fossils from Germany, Russia, and Croatia has demonstrated that these individuals carried closely related mtDNAs that are not found among current humans.....

92 posted on 10/02/2012 9:54:04 AM PDT by varmintman
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To: varmintman; null and void; ravenwolf
varmintman: "Calling that one a lie makes YOU a liar:"

Your sources from 1996 are way, way out of date.
So, how many times do you have to see the truth before you stop misrepresenting it?

In short, genetic diversity among humans is 10 million to 30 million DNA mutations.

In other words, the genetic difference between humans and neanderthals is about .3% or circa 10 million DNA mutations.
That means there is more genetic diversity among humans than between humans and Neanderthals.

Contrast the genetic differences between humans and chimpanzees at 94% = 192 million DNA mutations or 19 times the differences between humans and Neanderthals.

So, on a scale of one to twenty, where chimpanzees are 20 and humans one, Neanderthals are about 1.5 at most.

Furthermore, the 1% to 4% of Neanderthal DNA in some humans tells us that either they interbred before Neanderthals' extinction, or share a more recent common ancestor than previously supposed.

94 posted on 10/02/2012 4:32:13 PM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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