Vanity: Will the Antichrist practice "taquia"

[ConservativeMan55]

So I've grown up in church. And everything I've read and heard preached went something like this.

Israel will be in a war.. or be about to get into a war when the Antichrist comes along and makes a "peace" deal for 7 years.

3 and a half years into the deal the Antichrist breaks the deal and starts a war with Israel.

Does this deception sound like "Taquia" to any of you.

"Taquia" teaches Muslims that it's ok to lie to an enemy during battle. Deception, etc.

I've like to hear Freepers thoughts on this.

Will the Antichrist be a muslim? I thought that person was supposed to be very believable.. and fool a lot of the world. At this point I would hope a lot of people wouldn't be fooled by a Muslim.

But again.. Obama did manage to become President. Doh!

[Irenic]

fantastic book!

[hannibaal]

Some people take things too literally.

[Irenic]

A VERY long video but it is like a peep-hole into their thinking and belief. He speaks in arabic and then english.

From Tripoli To Damascus To Imam Al Mahdi By Sheikh Imran Hosein

[Irenic]

At least watch from 1:17:20 - 1:26:10...

Then think about these stories...

Texas Senator Cornyn Demands Answers on Russian Sub in Gulf of Mexico
http://news.yahoo.com/texas-senator-cornyn-demands-answers-russian-sub-gulf-183300516.html

On the order of Ayatollah Khamenei Iran launches Tareq 901 submarine, Sahand destroyer
http://abna.ir/data.asp?lang=3&Id=348794

September 22, 2012
Obama aids Egypt as it tries to buy U-boats
Published: 11:46 AM 09/10/2012

“President Barack Obama’s deputies are negotiating a $1 billion aid package with Egypt’s new Islamist government, even as Egypt’s cash-strapped military revealed that it is trying to buy $1 billion worth of German submarines that could threaten Israel’s fast-growing offshore energy projects.”
http://dailycaller.com/2012/09/10/obama-aids-egypt-as-it-tries-to-buy-u-boats/

Israel: selling subs to Egypt endangers us
http://www.thelocal.de/national/20120904-44755.html

[MestaMachine]

So do I, but this particulat quatrain backs up the Bible uncannily. It was just an interesting comparison.

[GiovannaNicoletta]

Here is a list of the Biblical characteristics of the Antichrist. Many think that he will be Muslim; however the Bible tells us that he will come from the people who destroyed Jerusalem in 70AD, which, as we know, was the Roman Empire. This is not to say that he can't be both (both Muslim and come from the people who destroyed Jerusalem), but keep in mind that after the Psalm 83 and Ezekiel 38/39 wars, Islam is going to be so decimated that being a Muslim just isn't going to have the same, um, relevance that it has now.

Here are 27 Biblical characteristics of the Antichrist:

• He comes from among ten kings in the restored Roman Empire; his authority will have similarities to the ancient Babylonians, Persians, and Greeks [Daniel 7:24; Rev 13:2 / Daniel 7:7]
• He will subdue three kings [Daniel 7:8, 24]
• He is different from the other kings [Daniel 7:24]
• He will rise from obscurity… a “little horn” [Daniel 7:8]
• He will speak boastfully [Daniel 7:8; Rev 13:5]
• He will blaspheme God, [Daniel 7:25; 11:36; Rev 13:5] slandering His Name, dwelling place, and departed Christians and Old Testament saints [Rev 13:6]
• He will oppress the Tribulation saints and be successful for 3 ½ years [Daniel 7:25; Rev 13:7]
• He will try to change the calendar, perhaps to define a new era, related to himself [Daniel 7:25]
• He will try to change the laws, perhaps to gain an advantage for his new kingdom and era [Dan 7:25]
• He will not be succeeded by another earthly ruler, but by Christ [Daniel 7:26-27]
• He will confirm a covenant with “many”, i.e. the Jewish people [Daniel 9:27] This covenant will likely involve the establishment of a Jewish Temple in Jerusalem [see Dan 9:27; Matt 24:15]
• He will put an end to Jewish sacrifice and offerings after 3 ½ years and will set up an abomination to God in the Temple [Daniel 9:27, Matthew 24:15]
• He will not answer to a higher earthly authority; “He will do as he pleases”[Daniel 11:36]
• He will show no regard for the religion of his ancestors [Daniel 11:37]
• He will not believe in any god at all [except for himself] [Daniel 11:37]
• He will have “no regard for the desire of women”: He will either be asexual or homosexual [Dan 11:37]
• He will claim to be greater than any god [Daniel 11:37; 2 Thess 2:4]
• He will claim to be God [2 Thessalonians 2:4]
• He will only honor a “god” of the military. His whole focus and attention will be on his military. He will conquer lands and distribute them [Daniel 11:39-44]
• His arrival on the world scene will be accompanied by miracles, signs and wonders [2 Thess 2:9]
• Either he, or his companion [The False Prophet], will claim to be Christ [Matt 24:21-28]
• He will claim that Jesus did not come in the flesh, or that Jesus did not rise bodily from the grave [2 John 7]. He will deny that Jesus is the Messiah [I John 2:22]
• He will be worshipped by many people [Rev. 13:8]
• He will hate a nation that initially will have some control over his kingdom, but he will destroy this nation [Rev 17:16-18]
• He will appear to survive a fatal injury [Rev. 13:3; 17:8]
• His name will be related to the number six hundred and sixty six—but not necessarily in an obvious fashion [Rev 13:17-18].
• He will be empowered by the devil himself [Rev. 13:2]

I personally believe that the man who will become the Antichrist is alive today and I believe that he is probably in some obscure political position in Europe somewhere. He will come out of nowhere, with no political or personal baggage, and he will have the forceful, charismatic, magnetic personality that will draw the world to him.

I also believe that it is possible, but not certain, that the Islamic nations will perceive him to be their 12th Imam.

[markomalley]

I would not imagine that the Muzzies would ever produce the Son of Perdition (a/k/a "The AntiChrist"). The reason I say that is because even though you have the apocalyptic "12th imam" from the Shi'a, I can't ever picture the Sunnis going along. Likewise, if the Sunnis produced a worldwide Caliph, that person would be denounced as an apostate by the Shi'a imams. Contrary to the taqiyya they like pushing on us Westerners, the two sects hate each other virtually as much as they hate us.

I personally think it will be more of a Rick Warren type of person (not that I'm accusing Warren himself of this) who tries to create a "Chrislam".

You might be interested in reading an old book from Robert Hugh Benson, called Lord of the World. It was written back in 1907 and, although some of the technology he talks about didn't exactly work out that way, it describes the world we live in remarkably accurately. You can get a free epub of it from Project Gutenberg.

[Irenic]

Paper Details Obama Admin’s Alleged Secret Note Sent to Iran: If Israel Attacks, We Won’t Get Involved
by SHARONA SCHWARTZ September 4, 2012
http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/detail/paper-details-obama-admins-alleged-secret-note-sent-to-iran-if-israel-attacks-we-wont-get-involved

Dempsey: I don’t want to be complicit in Iran strike
By JPOST.COM STAFF, REUTERS
08/30/2012 22:45
http://www.jpost.com/IranianThreat/News/Article.aspx?id=283316

Valerie Jarrett:
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/fox-friends-guest-on-valerie-jarretts-influence-over-obama-shes-the-de-facto-president/

http://www.iranian.com/main/singlepage/2008/valerie-jarrett

Obama Reportedly Calls For Iran Talks In Secret Letter
01/18/12
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/18/obama-iran-talks_n_1213280.html

IRAN: Report of second letter from Obama to Tehran [Updated]
September 2, 2009
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/babylonbeyond/2009/09/iran-report-of-secret-letter-from-obama-to-tehran.html

Obama Offered Deal to Russia in Secret Letter
By PETER BAKER
Published: March 2, 2009
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/03/washington/03prexy.html?_r=0

‘After my election I have more flexibility’: Microphones pick up Obama making astonishing boast during private discussion with Russian president
PUBLISHED: 09:01 EST, 26 March 2012
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2120558/Obama-open-mic-Microphones-pick-U-S-President-boasting-Medvedev-winning-reelection.html

[vanilla swirl]

related or not?
google “white horse prophecy”
Could we be looking in the wrong place for an Antichrist/

[American Constitutionalist]

Should have also tested them as the Apostle John tells us to test the spirits to see whether they are from God or not.
To test the spirits ? test and see if they confess that Jesus Christ came in the flesh.

[mdmathis6]

Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is the unpardonable sin. Jesus spoke of it when when it was claimed by his detractors that his miracles were of the Devil.

[trebb]

Doesn’t matter what “religion” the anti-Christ will claim. Being a minion of the Evil One, he will not need an excuse to lie. What will be really tough is that while he may snow a LOT of folks, there will be many who see through the whole deal and who will be impotent to do anything about it - it will be even worse on the already saved folks than watching what an Obama admin is doing is currently on Conservative Christians.

[arthurus]

I have long thought that Islam fills the bill as the Antichrist of lore. It is not a single man, not even Mohammed. It is Mohammed’s creation, Islam.

[metmom]

But the Antichrist won’t come right out and say he’s a muslim right away sounds like?

***cough*** obama ***cough***

[metmom]

But the Antichrist won’t come right out and say he’s a muslim right away sounds like?

***cough*** obama ***cough***

Precedent says "no".

[metmom]

How far away are we from this? It seems like we’re in the end times. Will a nuke be set off.. or nukes be set off before the Antichrist makes his first move for “peace”

Wouldn't surprise me.

There's only a need for peace when there is none.

Someone purporting a peace treaty in time of peace won't make much of a splash.

In order for the AC's peace treaty to catapult him into that kind of leadership position, things are going to have to be really coming apart at the seams.

[metmom]

*Christian* as in follower of Christ irrespective of denominational affiliation.

There are true believers in every denomination and unsaved in every denomination. What varies is merely the percentages.

True Christianity is a matter of the heart, not religious affiliation. It doesn’t matter what church they go to and how often. If their heart is not right with God, all their works and trying are an exercise in futility.