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To: bronxville

I guess the avenue I’m going down is that Stevens visited Germany, Austria and Sweden.

I am thinking Stevens was trying to meet with or get information and more names of the scientists that worked for Gaddafi’s WMD program.

h ttp://www.armytimes.com/news/2011/09/ap-us-attempts-to-keep-tabs-on-libyan-scientists-091511/

***The U.S. has sought to keep track of Libya’s unconventional weapons experts during the civil war, the State Department official said, and has found no direct evidence that any were recruited to work in illicit weapons programs.

In the past few days a few Libyan WMD scientists, including bioweapons experts, have re-established contact with U.S. officials. Meanwhile, the official said, Washington has worked with U.S. scientists at nongovernment groups and national laboratories to draft a list of key Libyan researchers who need to be located.***

With all the oil resources in Libya, and quickly sending troops into Uganda (has been discovered to be VERY oil rich) right before Gadadfi was killed, any curiosity/anger over Uganda would be forgotten/lost in the excitement of a free Libya and a dead Gaddafi.

I think that might explain the list of names and oil contracts that went missing from the consulate. We had nobody there to discover missing files, plus, Stevens journal was found four days later. Why get that information out in the news so quickly? How did they know those files were missing?

Maybe they got the news of missing files out quickly so that people (scientists?) could hide and perhaps others could destroy connecting evidence (oil contracts?)

I also toy with the idea that the Kuny2012 video was a cloaked attempt to get into Uganda without a fuss and to actually have support from people the world over. It failed, it was found to be a fake—just like the fake video before the consulate attack.

I see a bunch of agendas here and I think that they made a HUGE mess of things. It didn’t all work as beautifully as they had planned it all.


136 posted on 09/26/2012 9:04:44 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: Irenic

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/mysterious-fatal-crash-provides-rare-glimpse-of-us-commandos-in-mali/2012/07/08/gJQAGO71WW_story.html

Mysterious fatal crash offers rare look at U.S. commando presence in Mali

In many countries, including most in Africa, Special Operations forces work openly to distribute humanitarian aid and train local militaries. At times, the civil-affairs assignments can provide credible cover for clandestine counterterrorism units.

But in Mali, U.S. military personnel had ceased all training and civil-affairs work by the end of March, about a week after the country’s democratically elected president was overthrown in a military coup.


137 posted on 09/26/2012 10:32:47 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: Irenic

Thank you. Lots of creative thinking. :)

I think what you said here is key...

“In the past few days a few Libyan WMD scientists, including bioweapons experts, have re-established contact with U.S. officials. Meanwhile, the official said, Washington has worked with U.S. SCIENTISTS at NONGOVERNMENT GROUPS and NATIONAL LABORATORIES to draft a list of KEY LIBYAN RESEARCHERS who NEED to be located.”

My emphasis. I think they belong to the UN group as described below - it would mean Obama totally failed with his “new roadmap” - see 2nd snippet below. I’ve been checking out Thomas Pickering, the individual Hillary selected to head up her investigation team, whatevers going on...he’s involved. The people involved in the Balkans were the International Crisis Group (ICG) - co-Chairs Tom Pickering w/ Louise Armour, and the International Criminal Court {ICC) co-Chairs Tom Pickering and Louise Armour, along with UN Refugee groups, Human Watch..Soros and so on. The ICG and ICC always work together. It consisted of the UN/WB/NATO/EU/ICC-ICG/Human Rights and all the other NGO’s including USAID.

Hillary considers Pickering an “old friend” (the guy she chose to head up the Libyan investigation):-

“I want to thank Marc and Frank Giustra. I want to thank Louise (she prosecuted Milsovec etc) for her leadership and everyone on the board; the chairman, an old friend, Tom Pickering; Wolf Blitzer, thank you for giving of your time; and all the generous supporters here tonight. Because for more than 15 years, you have helped policy-makers see the world more clearly and respond to conflict more effectively.”

15 yrs ago they went to the Balkans - don’t know when the Oil Pipelines became a factor but Pickering is Chair of the largest Pipeline Company in the world - Russian. Milsovec and others were accused of Genocide and Ethnic Cleansing of Muslims! Today (as I’m sure it was then) the area is swarming with Salafists, training grounds, and everything that goes with it.

“Well, we can’t wait any longer. So on Monday, the Obama Administration will launch a comprehensive new roadmap that will be accelerating and institutionalizing efforts across the U.S. Government to advance women’s participation in making and keeping peace. In a speech on Monday at Georgetown University, I will explain how our troops, our diplomats, and our development experts will all work together to take our commitment to UN Security Council Resolution 1325 to the next level and make it a priority for American foreign policy. (Applause.)”
http://www.crisisgroup.org/en/support/event-calendar/past-events/past-events/annual-award-dinner/award-dinner-2011/keynote-address-us-secretary-of-state-hillary-rodham-clinton.aspx

The above was at a Peace Award ICG dinner. I’m figuring that our government is now working with the same UN Balkan group, (they’re still there and never appear to leave). They did the same in Liberia, Sierra Leone... There’s still strife between Kosovo and Serbia, lots of drugs, and drug running...billions in that, and there’s the Balkan Pipeline going into Europe somewhere...know zip about pipelines. If true, then our military are no longer in our domain but under the auspices of the UN...NATO. I know nato uses lots of countries but ours is the vast majority. They’re nation building...whose paying for it? I know those billionaires aren’t and certainly not Carnegie/CFR who are largely responsible for this new approach which is dangerous as we’ve found out in Libyan. In N. Ireland they released political prisoners and immersed them into their districts. This worked out fairly well but it’s a whole different set of circumstances. They’re blinded by their own PC’ness into thinking if they don’t call it terrorism it’s not...

Reese Foundation Investigation:

During these investigations in the 1950s, the Congressional Committee found that:

Many of our large foundations were actively promoting communism and socialism

The foundations influenced State Department policy and were largely responsible for bringing communism to China.

The foundations were working to undermine our constitutional form of government.

In the official minutes of the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, the Reece Committee also found the following specific questions which were discussed by the Carnegie trustee:

“Is there any means known to man more effective than war, assuming you wish to alter the life of an entire people?’”

“How do we involve the United States in a war?”

“How do we control the diplomatic machinery of the United States?”

[Their conclusion: “We” must control the State Department.]
http://mediachecker.wordpress.com/

Anyway I’m going to put some of the stuff I’ve discovered onto the mediachecker blog I use for storing some stuff though haven’t put some on it as it’s way out there though not so much anymore.

This is insightful...Keynes was a Fabian, the early 1920’s was an interesting time for them...no constraints on anything...(Shirley Williams is an English Fabian and attends Carnegie International, Wilson School, Century Foundation meetings)...
http://www.keynesatharvard.org/book/KeynesatHarvard-ch10.html


138 posted on 09/29/2012 1:07:42 PM PDT by bronxville (Margaret Sanger - “We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population,Â)
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