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To: Irenic

Thank you. Lots of creative thinking. :)

I think what you said here is key...

“In the past few days a few Libyan WMD scientists, including bioweapons experts, have re-established contact with U.S. officials. Meanwhile, the official said, Washington has worked with U.S. SCIENTISTS at NONGOVERNMENT GROUPS and NATIONAL LABORATORIES to draft a list of KEY LIBYAN RESEARCHERS who NEED to be located.”

My emphasis. I think they belong to the UN group as described below - it would mean Obama totally failed with his “new roadmap” - see 2nd snippet below. I’ve been checking out Thomas Pickering, the individual Hillary selected to head up her investigation team, whatevers going on...he’s involved. The people involved in the Balkans were the International Crisis Group (ICG) - co-Chairs Tom Pickering w/ Louise Armour, and the International Criminal Court {ICC) co-Chairs Tom Pickering and Louise Armour, along with UN Refugee groups, Human Watch..Soros and so on. The ICG and ICC always work together. It consisted of the UN/WB/NATO/EU/ICC-ICG/Human Rights and all the other NGO’s including USAID.

Hillary considers Pickering an “old friend” (the guy she chose to head up the Libyan investigation):-

“I want to thank Marc and Frank Giustra. I want to thank Louise (she prosecuted Milsovec etc) for her leadership and everyone on the board; the chairman, an old friend, Tom Pickering; Wolf Blitzer, thank you for giving of your time; and all the generous supporters here tonight. Because for more than 15 years, you have helped policy-makers see the world more clearly and respond to conflict more effectively.”

15 yrs ago they went to the Balkans - don’t know when the Oil Pipelines became a factor but Pickering is Chair of the largest Pipeline Company in the world - Russian. Milsovec and others were accused of Genocide and Ethnic Cleansing of Muslims! Today (as I’m sure it was then) the area is swarming with Salafists, training grounds, and everything that goes with it.

“Well, we can’t wait any longer. So on Monday, the Obama Administration will launch a comprehensive new roadmap that will be accelerating and institutionalizing efforts across the U.S. Government to advance women’s participation in making and keeping peace. In a speech on Monday at Georgetown University, I will explain how our troops, our diplomats, and our development experts will all work together to take our commitment to UN Security Council Resolution 1325 to the next level and make it a priority for American foreign policy. (Applause.)”
http://www.crisisgroup.org/en/support/event-calendar/past-events/past-events/annual-award-dinner/award-dinner-2011/keynote-address-us-secretary-of-state-hillary-rodham-clinton.aspx

The above was at a Peace Award ICG dinner. I’m figuring that our government is now working with the same UN Balkan group, (they’re still there and never appear to leave). They did the same in Liberia, Sierra Leone... There’s still strife between Kosovo and Serbia, lots of drugs, and drug running...billions in that, and there’s the Balkan Pipeline going into Europe somewhere...know zip about pipelines. If true, then our military are no longer in our domain but under the auspices of the UN...NATO. I know nato uses lots of countries but ours is the vast majority. They’re nation building...whose paying for it? I know those billionaires aren’t and certainly not Carnegie/CFR who are largely responsible for this new approach which is dangerous as we’ve found out in Libyan. In N. Ireland they released political prisoners and immersed them into their districts. This worked out fairly well but it’s a whole different set of circumstances. They’re blinded by their own PC’ness into thinking if they don’t call it terrorism it’s not...

Reese Foundation Investigation:

During these investigations in the 1950s, the Congressional Committee found that:

Many of our large foundations were actively promoting communism and socialism

The foundations influenced State Department policy and were largely responsible for bringing communism to China.

The foundations were working to undermine our constitutional form of government.

In the official minutes of the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, the Reece Committee also found the following specific questions which were discussed by the Carnegie trustee:

“Is there any means known to man more effective than war, assuming you wish to alter the life of an entire people?’”

“How do we involve the United States in a war?”

“How do we control the diplomatic machinery of the United States?”

[Their conclusion: “We” must control the State Department.]
http://mediachecker.wordpress.com/

Anyway I’m going to put some of the stuff I’ve discovered onto the mediachecker blog I use for storing some stuff though haven’t put some on it as it’s way out there though not so much anymore.

This is insightful...Keynes was a Fabian, the early 1920’s was an interesting time for them...no constraints on anything...(Shirley Williams is an English Fabian and attends Carnegie International, Wilson School, Century Foundation meetings)...
http://www.keynesatharvard.org/book/KeynesatHarvard-ch10.html


138 posted on 09/29/2012 1:07:42 PM PDT by bronxville (Margaret Sanger - “We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population,Â)
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To: bronxville

Hillary at Georgetown early 2012: “Certainly, the scenes that we’re seeing out of Egypt today should be first and foremost distressing to Egyptians and not to us or others before the Egyptian people themselves. The promise, the beauty of the revolutionary aspirations that everyone watched unfold in Tahrir Square, the restraint of the security forces in how they responded, all of that was very promising, and it was held up by the Egyptian people – leaders and citizens alike – as what a new Egypt would look like. The scenes of Coptic Christians protecting Muslims while praying, and then Muslims protecting Coptic Christians while praying was an Egyptian scene – not American or European or Western.”

I just read your post #137. It appears to be a pattern. Syria now has government condoned rape. The Balkans/Rwanda had genocide and ethnic cleansing. N Ireland a massive bombing - an isolated incidence as it came a number of years after the troubles and done by an unknown group. Women took it upon themselves afterwards to get involved, so when Hillary and George Mitchell arrived it was a process already implemented. I know someone who was very involved, she and a group of women were invited to the WH by Hillary, a few years later. They’re a great bunch of people and would’ve given Hillary all the credit not knowing what a narcissist she was...She’s made that a policy now...women will take the lead. That was fine in N Ireland but in the ME, that’s something else again, their thinking is too progressive...

The Jihad Salafists have been destroying mosques in Mali - one of them was actually very stunning until they got a hold of it. They’re doing the same in Libya, Egypt etc., and of course, Churches.

PS: Not only does Pickering belong to the biggest pipeline company in the world, ICG/ICC, he belongs to at least 10 others...


139 posted on 09/29/2012 1:51:29 PM PDT by bronxville (Margaret Sanger - “We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population,Â)
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