[boatbums]

I agree that the Pharisees in Jesus' time rejected him as the Messiah, but it sure sound like, by what you are saying, that Roy Masters ALSO rejects who Jesus is. I fully agree that we must meditate upon the word of God and make Him the source of strength and victory in our lives. We also have the indwelling Holy Spirit by whom we are sealed until the day of redemption and He is our teacher. I see the power of Christ in EVERY area of my life and do NOT deny it - mightily or otherwise. What I cannot understand - and which YOU started here in this very thread - is why Masters teaches a denial of the Deity of Jesus Christ. What part does THAT play in making his methods work or not?

I'm happy you have found peace, but if that peace comes at the cost of your eternal life, what value does it really have? Jesus clearly said that we will DIE IN OUR SINS if we do not believe He is who He claims to be - and that IS God in the flesh. What is it about this tenet that Masters has convinced you it is not true? Why does denial of this truth determine the success or failure of his methods. Because, to be honest with you, I am highly suspicious of it. Jesus said, "What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world and loses his soul?"

[fabian]

You are putting too much importance on him supposedly being God. He said, and Roy teaches too, that if we judge, we will be judged. Forgive us, as we forgive....not being annoyed by people’s thoughtlessness daily....is exactly what Roy teaches. There are actually people around the world that learn that patient love that know very little to nothing about Jesus of history, but still will be saved because they have that holy spirit and learn to live by it. You are intellectualizing your “salvation” and thereby missing it.