Decisions decisions!
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►Sometimes you will hear, quite distinctly, words "spoken" to you in short phrases. Do not be alarmed.236 <
That is NOT a quote from Roy as you seem to be presenting. Why don't you be honest and put the actual source
Though i lost the formatting because some html must have been in there (my bad, but also in your post) the quotes are numbered, and the sources from Masters works were right there in the link they came from, if you cared to look. (http://www.theworldviewcenter.org/encyclopedia_foundationforhumanunderstanding.html)
Meanwhile my comments that, "Under which you realize esoteric understanding independent of the Scripture, and then the Bible can mean whatever you think it means in confirming what you already concluded." is just what he teaches.
For enlightened understanding comes first, and he denies that the Bible is holy, but that it is his understanding that is holy, and the Bible can be used for toilet paper (or discarded later), as also referenced. (http://www.blogtalkradio.com/waltermartindotcom/2011/06/05/walter-martin-takes-on-roy-masters.mp3)
Here is the whole post with the formatting.
Where do you find it? Well, not on the basis by conflating textual evidence thru studying the Scriptures as evidenced therein, (Lk. 24:27; Acts 17:11; 28:23), but by first entering into Masters mind-numbing occultist meditation:
►The evidence of a Higher Presence in meditation is [manifested by] a change in breathing.233
►Cold shivers, occasional perspiration, and labored or heavy breathing reveal contact-response to a higher consciousness. It means something has been added that is causing changes to occur.234
► Occasionally you will feel suspended in space, as if your body had melted into the universe and become "one" with all nature. . . . You will find yourself expressing wisdom and knowledge that you never outwardly learned or heard before.235
►Sometimes you will hear, quite distinctly, words "spoken" to you in short phrases. Do not be alarmed.236 Under which you realize esoteric understanding independent of the Scripture, and then the Bible can mean whatever you think it means in confirming what you already concluded.
►One day, after discovering many things, the Spirit will lead you to read Scripture. At that time you will find joy on accepting the Witness to the Scriptures, rather than verses and chapters. What a contrast this is to accepting the Bible as the word of God: " And afterward, having begun without the Scriptures, and with your own spirit being supreme - judging Scripture rather than Scripture judging them - then you can discard it later.
►The whole process of growing is not from words but from realizing and then you can throw your Bible in the garbage can and there's no sin in that.137
►The Scriptures can poison you, and destroy you. They are lethal, they are deadly. They are more deadly than any drug.138
And it is not the Bible that is holy, but the revelation gained under Masters meditation is what he considers holy, while the Bible can be used as toilet paper. (Walter Martin Takes on Roy Masters], audio debate)
[So] I threw a Bible in the garbage can. That Bible can go in the garbage can just as soon as anything can go in the garbage can. Slop can go in the garbage can, because the Bible isn't God.136 — http://www.theworldviewcenter.org/encyclopedia_foundationforhumanunderstanding.html
It is good that you keep responding, because it means Masters is progressively exposed more and more for the Gnostic-type false “apostle” that he is.
sorry ...that is not Roy’s site nor Roy’s quote. If anyone wants to hear from Roy thay need to go to www.fhu.com.
Why don’t you be honest...you are not.
I am not even going to reply to you all any longer because you guys are so judgmental and think you are all righteous. The most wicked thing is to slander the good character of a person and try to have others believe the lie. All reading this post can go to my link at the fhu.com and learn the truth for themselves, because they will in no ways get in from you hypocrites. At least you are conservatives...but not all the way because strong conservatives see Roy for what he is.
I was thinking the same thing! I've been wondering why this thread just keeps on going on, repeating the same points and the same counter points, why we are compelled to reply to each insult and false accusation and then I realized that the longer it stays here getting replies, the more people can learn about the nefarious and evil teachings of a man who is convinced HE is the true savior of the world. He has the few converts so caught up in what they call a "simple exercise" that they miss how far away they are from really knowing what is truth and what is a lie. They have been tricked into accepting a feeling over the source of all truth. I doubt if Jesus were to return today, they would acknowledge Him. Yet they would continue to insist they alone have the truth while truth is staring them in the face!
Sounds like DEMON POSSESSION to me!