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To: fabian; boatbums; mitch5501; smvoice; Springfield Reformer

>I did ask you to use your own words because your mind is a master at using scripture...<

To refute that which is not Scriptural, as the sword of the Spirit does that, and and you remind me of a moonie one time who took and held my bible above my head so that i could not quote it to him anymore.

As for the women in Jn. 8:11 being told to “sin no more,” of course that is commanded, as this is nothing new but men have been commanded to “cease to do evil” (Is. 1:16), long before that, and all are, but which does not teach that those so commanded no longer, sin, as all have sinned (and it appears the man in Jn. 5:14 did, who also was also told “sin no more.”

And neither this man nor the women in Jn. 8 were born again, (Jn. 7:39) while it has been indisputably shown that Christians sinned even after they were born again, while context and language does not support any text teaching that they do not, or that being born again is achieved thru the process of Masters type of meditations, resulting in attaining a sinless life, rather than being an event that occurs when one hears and believes the gospel of Scripture, which usually was in the same hour, and which begins growth in grace toward perfection.

Thus you must resort to repeating refuted assertions as arguments, and disallowing exegetical Scriptural reproof as being of our own mind, when in reality you are not supposed to attain understanding by exegetical Scriptural investigation, but rest upon your cultic esoteric revelation as holy. And which no amount of Scriptural correction can be allowed to correct, as is the case with other cults.

One of the fruits of which are such gems as “You can never teach the difference between right and wrong—only can you discover it by searching in experience.” “If a dog had tempted Adam to fall, he “would have had sexual
feeling toward that dog.” (http://www.theworldviewcenter.org/encyclopedia_foundationforhumanunderstanding.html)


445 posted on 09/27/2012 7:58:17 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: daniel1212

You are so compromised in is ridiculous. Jesus would never have given that command unless he KNEW she could fulfill it. Otherwise he is creating in her even more conflict of not being able to obey the master. Jesus NEVER taught that we would still sin...ever!


447 posted on 09/27/2012 8:02:53 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter"you min)
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