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To: fabian; Tuanedge; Godzilla; metmom; boatbums
You have not addressed my point about Jesus and his lack of teaching of your precious trinity and him being a god.

I (among others) have certainly addressed your claim about Jesus not being God more than once, such as here, and my link , here.

Nor can you even engage in exegetical examination of Scripture texts, as that requires examining context, grammar, genre, etc but such study of words is rejected by Masters in favor of his subjective esoteric revelations gained thru his mind mediation.

Thus the evidence testifies that His Deity certainly does not suffer from a lack of teaching on it, as instead Scripture as a whole requires it, as well as the belief in the deity of the Holy Spirit as a person.

Also of course once one is born again they are a new person but there is often a period of time of prayer and earnest desire before that appointed time set by God only for when that salvation comes.

"Of course" means you have avoided the difference, which is that the preparatory work of God which leads to being born again is not that of Masters system of mind-numbing mediation and its esoteric revelation, and which rejects serious studying the Scriptures, and in fact regeneration in Scripture often was preceded by the very kind of historical studying of Scripture texts (Acts 17:11; 18:28; 28:23) which Masters scorns. Instead souls were usually born again in the same hour as they heard the gospel. And at which time they confessed their faith in the Lord Jesus by baptism, which Masters likely has no use for in the literal sense.

Thus all the members of the churches were addressed as born again Christians. And as shown, they live sinless lives either. Masters is simply preaching another Jesus, Spirit and gospel, being the false apostle and deceitful worker that he is. (2Cor. 11:4,13) At least he is in the Bible.

That which frees us completley from sin as I have shown in scripture which you guys cannot deal with.

Rather, we have exegetically dealt with your duplistic "Scripture" claims by Scripture, refuting them, as just shown again , despite your rote denials and refusal to receive it. Those who say they have no sin deceive themselves, and the truth is not in them. (1Jn. 1:8) And as your responses show, Masters and his disciples are blind leaders of the blind.

386 posted on 09/26/2012 1:43:09 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: daniel1212

No you have not squarley dealt with the FACT. That there are many passages that say we are free from sinning and do not sin after salvation. And once again Jesus did not address him being equal to God in all his teachings and parrables....FACT.


387 posted on 09/26/2012 1:55:37 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter"you min)
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To: daniel1212

“Rather, we have exegetically dealt with your duplistic “Scripture” claims by Scripture, refuting them, as just shown again , despite your rote denials and refusal to receive it.”

hogwash...I see your mo..I present some simple and concise bible quotes that clearly show that we are not to sin and have the power to not sin once we are truly reborn. Then you send all sorts of extracirricular texts that do not directly confront my simple quotes. You wash away the simpletruth with a multitude of of topic quotes and think you have somehow won or something just from the sheer volume of your intectualiztions. So here we are again...please do not dodge these. In your own words please tell me how you can say that a reborn person can still sin in context of these quotes. THank you.

1 Pet. 2:11 ABSTAIN FROM FLESHLY LUST, which war against the soul
1 Pet. 2:21 CHRIST also suffered for us, Leaving us an example, that YE SHOULD FOLLOW HIS STEPS
1 Pet. 2:22 WHO DID NO SIN
1 Pet. 4:1 He that hath suffered in the flesh HATH CEASED FROM SIN
1 Pet. 4:2 NO LONGER should LIVE the rest of his time IN THE FLESH to the lusts of men, but to the will of GOD
2 Pet. 2:4 If GOD SPARED NOT THE ANGELS THAT SINNED, but cast them down to hell
2 Pet. 2:5 AND SPARED NOT THE OLD WORLD, but saved Noah
2 Pet. 2:6 MAKING THEM AN ENSAMPLE unto those that after should live ungodly
2 Pet. 2:9 THE LORD KNOWETH HOW TO DELIVER THE GODLY OUT OF TEMPTATIONS
1 John 1:7 THE BLOOD OF JESUS CHRIST HIS SON CLEANSETH US FROM ALL SIN
1 John 1:9 AND TO CLEANSE US FROM ALL UNRIGHTEOUSNESS
1 John 2:1 THAT YE SIN NOT,
1 John 2:6 HE THAT SAITH HE ABIDETH IN HIM OUGHT himself also so TO WALK, EVEN AS HE WALKED
1 John 3:6 Whosoever abideth in him SINNETH NOT
1 John 3:8 HE THAT COMMITTETH SIN IS OF THE DEVIL
1 John 3:9 WHOSOEVER IS BORN OF GOD DOTH NOT COMMIT SIN
1 John 3:10 Whosoever DOTH NOT righteousness IS NOT OF GOD
1 John 5:18 Whosoever IS BORN OF GOD SINNETH NOT
2 John 9 Whosoever TRANSGRESSETH, AND ABIDETH NOT in the doctrine of Christ, HATH NOT GOD

3 John 11 He that DOETH GOOD IS OF GOD, but he that DOETH EVIL HATH NOT SEEN GOD AND THERE SHALL IN NO WISE ENTER INTO IT ANYTHING THAT DEFILETH, NEITHER WHATSOEVER WORKETH ABOMINATION OR MAKETH A LIE

So you see, you guys can be free of sin but WILL not in your willful ignorance and huge excuse making to the point of vilifying Roy Masters who provides a simple pathway to that salvation which is indeed Biblical.


394 posted on 09/26/2012 6:53:40 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter"you min)
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