[fabian]

ooops...it is not a sin to make an error. Honestly, your arguments have descended into ridiculous and I choice not to follow.

[boatbums]

ooops...it is not a sin to make an error. Honestly, your arguments have descended into ridiculous and I choice not to follow.

You have missed the point, fabian. An "error" - any error - demonstrates imperfection. Romans 3:23, says "For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God." Sin - the English word for the Greek hamartanÅ, means:

1) to be without a share in
2) to miss the mark
3) to err, be mistaken
4) to miss or wander from the path of uprightness and honour, to do or go wrong
5) to wander from the law of God, violate God's law, sin

To "come short" of the perfection of God, is the Greek word hystereō and it means:

1) behind

a) to come late or too tardily

1) to be left behind in the race and so fail to reach the goal, to fall short of the end
2) metaph. fail to become a partaker, fall back from

b) to be inferior in power, influence and rank

1) of the person: to be inferior to

c) to fail, be wanting
d) to be in want of, lack

2) to suffer want, to be devoid of, to lack (be inferior) in excellence, worth

All humans have sinned, so my argument isn't ridiculous at all. I am gently trying to help you to see that you have a sin problem - even now in your presumed sinless state. I'm simply asking you what you do about that. Will you at least admit that you HAVE sinned in your life? Don't feel embarrassed, we ALL have sinned, all except for Jesus, that is, and that is because he is God in the flesh.

Jesus did not come to earth and figure out how to be sinless so he could go to heaven and be our example. He specifically came to earth to be our sacrifice for ALL sins and his blood was shed in propitiation for sin. That fancy word means "payment in full". We can go to heaven because of what Christ did for us, not because we practice a meditation exercise. So far, you have not been following ANY arguments. Why not start now?