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To: fabian
...as the bible says..”through patience possess ye your souls”

It DOES??

Where?

121 posted on 09/18/2012 6:57:15 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

First of all you have way too much time on your hands..secondly, since you are so smart about the bible, that verse is easily accessible to you. It is also commonsense and matched with forgiveness. Come on now, you should know that.


123 posted on 09/18/2012 7:19:45 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter"you min)
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To: Elsie; Godzilla; metmom; boatbums; caww; presently no screen name; smvoice; HarleyD; HossB86; ...

The verse is Luke 21:19 and says, “In your patience possess ye your souls,” with the context actually being the tribulation of persecution. While this does advocate patience, that is by faith as a fruit of the Holy Spirit, whom a believer receives when he is born again, and which is not a process, but an event that makes one part of the kingdom of God thru faith.

“In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, “ (Ephesians 1:13)

And while it is true that something lies at the root of stress, fear and pain, that something is not necessarily anger, though it can be resentment and unforgiveness, but it is primarily a lack of faith in surrender to God.

And again, the issue is not that all that Masters teaches is wrong, for like every cult he has many valid things to say, but the devil himself can speak insightful truth, and Masters is a type of “another Christ” who draws away disciples after Himself and not the Christ of the Bible, and actually requiring that one deny His deity for salvation. He likely denies eternal torment as well, which is another mark of many cults.

His statement that he could use the Bible like toilet paper in saying that it is the understanding he gets from it that is holy is also wrong, for while the Temple was only stone, etc., yet was a sanctified holy place due to what it contained and was set apart for, and even unbelieving spouses are set apart in this life due to the presence of one believer, (1Cor. 7:14) as seen in the case of Lot. (Gn. 19)

Masters also goes to extremes in blaming woman as well as food man’s spiritual problems. While in Scripture it was the act of disobedience that caused man to fall, and the forbidden fruit was not ordinary food, and the Lord makes it clear that it is not food that is the problem but the heart, (Mk. 7:18-23) in his book, “Eat no evil,” Masters states,

“Food and drink are portals through which a recreation spirit enters and evolves....” “Through food you are transformed, and you also forget what grew inside and changed you; you grow the sin self as though it were the true self. You forget that what you are is wrong; and you remind yourself of that error and the deviant, sickening you, is right. And through food, wrong is denied to the death. Food then, is a drug.” Through food we are all being guided by the dark spirit to a “heavenly” the hell on earth. Hence-all suffering and tragedy. (Forbidden fruits: life’s elixir; pp. 31,32)

“The Bible records that the first man’s (outer) eyes were opened through partaking of the forbidden drug of (mind-expanding) fruit.” (P. 44)

“While man happens to be omnivorous, he cannot eat without sin; which is to say, without enlightenment, the curse continues to flow through the food/woman experience to build the ego beast in him that sin gave birth to.” (P. 44)

The above and more reminds me of the Gnostic types Scripture warns of who focus on food beyond simply for heath reasons, and whose ordinances have indeed a shew of wisdom in will worship, and humility, and neglecting of the body, but were vainly puffed up by their fleshly mind, not rightly holding the Head. (cf. Col. 2:18-23)

He is thus like others who imagined superior enlightenment that rejected basic historical Scriptural truths, being esp. like Mary Baker Eddy of so-called “CHRISTIAN SCIENCE,” as well as EUGENE SWEDENBORG: http://peacebyjesus.witnesstoday.org/Bible_versus_S.C.C.S.html
http://peacebyjesus.witnesstoday.org/Swedenborg.html

Masters’ meditation is presented the means by which Adam and Eve’s original holy spirits are restored, thru a born again journey and is the only way to know you’re spirit is saved

He is also charged with confessing that he has NO prayer life because his meditation will create the same holy intentions of a prayerful heart. And that that once you have begun his meditation you will never have to read another spiritual book, including the Bible. - http://www.amazon.com/review/R1ARW9S4UFOAP4/ref=cm_cr_pr_perm?ie=UTF8&ASIN=0933900147&linkCode=&nodeID=&tag=

See more on Masters here, and how he fishes from the conservation Christan pier: http://theonebestway.wordpress.com/2010/08/20/david-kupelian-is-not-a-christian/


131 posted on 09/19/2012 5:24:05 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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