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I need a water softener but I am not made of money. (vanity, home talk)
9/15/2012 | myself

Posted on 09/15/2012 4:57:47 PM PDT by cableguymn

We recently bought a home knowing the missing water softener needed to be replaced. We had a chain softener company stop by and pitch us on a 3000 dollar setup.

I said thanks for stopping.

Our water has so much iron it has scrap value. 9 PPM if I remember right. With in a week the toilets are orange in the bowl from rust.

Hardness was a 9.

At our local "guns allowed" hardware store they suggested a unit sold under their name built by waterboss (basically a model 900) however, the reviews on it are anything but good. They are made in the USA but seem to fail and have rude customer service.

What do you suggest?


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To: cableguymn

I have a Waterboss 900 that was installed when we built our house. It is tidy, easy to fill and has no issues.

Oh and the water comes out softened.


41 posted on 09/15/2012 6:49:08 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("I have a new zest for life!"--Calvin from Las Vegas)
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To: Jim from C-Town; cableguymn

We get terribly hard water from our well.

The trunks of the trees in my yard are rust-colored, our black basalt garden stones now look like fools’ gold, even the lawn has an orange tint at times.

Inside the house we have one of the big Culligan systems and it was a couple grand plus. And we have to keep on top of it, keep it cleaned and so on, but it really has saved us on fixtures, pipes, clothes, etc.

We also have a really good & reliable Culligan store nearby, which helps.


42 posted on 09/15/2012 7:01:59 PM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: Fightin Whitey
My point exactly. Sometimes you have to do what you have to do. People complain about the price of a good piece of equipment yet will spend thousands extra to buy a specific nameplate car or hundreds on a dress that they wear one time.

Buy the Culligan and the service plan and be done with the little hassles in life.

43 posted on 09/15/2012 7:38:35 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: LtKerst

It’s a well.


44 posted on 09/15/2012 7:44:46 PM PDT by cableguymn
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To: cableguymn

I have very hard water from our well. I put in a Kinetico and have in on both hard and soft house lines. Solved the problem. All irrigation and outside lines use the hard water from the well. I’ve had the Kinetico for 20 years and just add salt. Worth the cost. I have an under sink RO for coffee and cooking too.


45 posted on 09/15/2012 8:02:18 PM PDT by Claytonbridge
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To: mamelukesabre

House has no iron pipe. it’s all new pex due to a freeze last winter. thankfully the well pump was off due to no power in the house.

Iron pipes are not a worry.

I have a 75GPD RO filter I use for my saltwater tank. I also use the output before the DI resin for the water dispenser in the fridge. All of our drinking water comes from that tap.

However, it’s been in use for only a week and the primary filter is orange already.


46 posted on 09/15/2012 8:47:18 PM PDT by cableguymn
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To: knarf

No.. That was the first 3 years of marriage. Today, she had something she wanted to dump in the toilet and I had put the seat down like I was programmed to do.

men just can’t win.


47 posted on 09/15/2012 8:48:56 PM PDT by cableguymn
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To: cableguymn

Go to your local grocery store with a couple of 5 gallon bottles and get your drinking water at 25 cents a gallon.

As far as your shower, you can get a cheap filter on it to block the stuff out for 30 bucks I am sure.


48 posted on 09/15/2012 8:54:28 PM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

Guy who drilled well is dead. Died last year I am told. Well was here when we bought the house. Septic was installed as part of closing the deal because I did my home work and called the county about it.

Well has the pump at the bottom. We are 20 feet above the lake 300 feet away. I doubt my well is very deep. In meeting with and talking with the people around me EVERYONE has the water problems I am having. Some are at 100 feet, one guy was at 425 feet.

Must be a sheet of iron under our homes.


49 posted on 09/15/2012 8:54:43 PM PDT by cableguymn
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To: Secret Agent Man

Our “fleet and farm” is a Mills Fleet Farm. They carry rebaged Waterboss pro units. Most everything I have read about waterboss is bad.


50 posted on 09/15/2012 8:56:12 PM PDT by cableguymn
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To: cableguymn

Consider yourself lucky, your groundwater issue is primarily an aesthetic one.

Here, if you’re on a well and don’t install a whole house RO system, your copper pipes and fittings will spring pinholes after as few as five years and certainly by ten, with potential burst pipes behind walls, etc. if the moisture problem from the pinholes isn’t recognized and caught in time.

The groundwater here is acidic. If any of you have problems with aqua or bluish stains in sinks and toilets, that’s copper in your plumbing being eaten away and deposited on the porcelain due to evaporation.

If you procrastinate on the RO water system, you’ll be spending more down the road to replace your plumbing, and potentially a whole lot more if walls have to be cut into or mold remediation is necessary.


51 posted on 09/15/2012 9:02:30 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: arkady_renko

What do you know about magnets?


52 posted on 09/15/2012 9:31:24 PM PDT by Bellflower (The LORD is Holy, separated from all sin, perfect, righteous, high and lifted up.)
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To: Bellflower

Art Bell used to advertise a system that had magnets. Seemed like a scam to me.


53 posted on 09/16/2012 1:35:29 AM PDT by JohnnyP
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To: cableguymn

Lemme tell you about our hard water.

54 posted on 09/16/2012 6:15:57 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: cableguymn
What do you suggest?

I suggest you contact several local water conditioning companies in your area. You will find one who is very familiar with the problem with iron in the water. I assume your water comes from your well. Locate the companies who service, not install, wells. They will already be aware of the water condition in your area.

There are lower cost methods to diminish the amount of iron but a complete filtering system is far better.

55 posted on 09/16/2012 7:05:12 AM PDT by MosesKnows (Love many, Trust few, and always paddle your own canoe)
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To: mamelukesabre
The only kind of softener anyone should get is an R.O. system.

RO works fine but with his iron content he is going to go throughfilters and expensive membranes like CRAZY. Worse, the RO works SO well that it might keep too much of the "good" bacteria out of his septic (assuming he has septic).
56 posted on 09/16/2012 8:17:47 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("I have a new zest for life!"--Calvin from Las Vegas)
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