Posted on 09/02/2012 8:32:30 PM PDT by EinNYC
I just saw 2016 today, it finally moving to a theater in my neighborhood. I thought it was just terrific, very well done and very persuasive. I'd be very interested to see what others think, especially fellow FReepers.
I like that.
Actually, I was kind of disappointed that the movie showed nothing new to me. In fact, it took a decidedly and unwavering anti-birther approach that startled me.
It reminded me of David Brock's The Real Anita Hill in that the approach was unexpectedly sympathetic only to later find the author to be a leftist mole.
If this offends you, all I can offer are the words of Benjamin Franklin: The sting of any rebuke is THE TRUTH!
I saw it last Tuesday, at the 11:40 A.M. matinee at a multiplex theatre. Not crowded, which is not surprising for a weekday matinee; and mostly “gray heads” in the audience.
When the flick ended and we stood up to leave, I said right out loud, “And all the people said, Amen!” I heard a number of Amens voiced around the theater along with mine. And as we walked down the corridor heading for the lobby I heard a male voice behind me say, “If that doesn’t wake some people up, they’re dead!”
And then I headed for Chick-fil-A for lunch. Tuesday is “Lunch at Chick-fil-A Day.
I saw it the Saturday it opened....I miss A LOT of it due to the major amount of information put forth. I expressed my opinion of the film and many FRiends explained some of the info I missed or misinterpreted. So I went and saw it again and I definitely have “eyes wide open”. Please go see it twice and don’t be embarrassed at all if you need to see it twice to get the full gist of the movie....It is that important. Of course most FRiends are WAY more intelligent than myself so it doesn’t surprise me that they pick up things quicker than I do....You should see me reading some of the threads and posts.....oy vey. :-)
“I saw it last Thursday and left depressed...depressed to think that voters in this country could be stupid enough to reelect an anti-American POS like Obama.”
When the British industrialist came over from England and set up the first commune in America (New Harmony, Indiana) in 1826 his ideas on alleviating poverty with Socialism were initially very popular for a couple of years. Once the America people understood his ideas he became unpopular very quickly.
Americans are eas to con if you package the idea in a shiny, new way. They only people who stayed with it (aka the Owenites) were described similarly to the hippies and OWSers of today.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Owen
In 1825, such an experiment was attempted under the direction of his disciple, Abram Combe, at Orbiston near Glasgow; and in the next year Owen himself began another at New Harmony, Indiana, U.S., sold to him by George Rapp. After a trial of about two years both failed completely. Neither of them was a pauper experiment; but it must be said that the members were of the most motley description, many worthy people of the highest aims being mixed with vagrants, adventurers, and crotchety, wrongheaded enthusiasts, or in the words of Owen’s son “a heterogeneous collection of radicals, enthusiastic devotees to principle, honest latitudinarians, and lazy theorists, with a sprinkling of unprincipled sharpers thrown in.”
Ah, yes. I did explain the Chick-Fil-A situation to my fence-sitting friend, in a voice loud enough to be heard by the other movie viewers, before the movie started. Some of them had heard about Chick-Fil-A becoming a symbol of support for traditional marriage. I likened patronage of both Chick-Fil-a AND this movie to a sort of straw vote for the election.
The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of 'liberalism' they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.
~Norman Thomas,American socialist, pacifist, and six-time presidential candidate for the Socialist Party of America
Why imply that 0bama is sabotaging the United States when it could’ve been stated directly because the facts presented back that up.
Thanks BIGLOOK. I read it month ago, along with many other articles and posts involving Obamas past.
Thanks BIGLOOK. I read it months ago, along with many other articles and posts involving Obamas past.
re: “In fact, it took a decidedly and unwavering anti-birther approach that startled me.”
I think D’Souza’s desire was to illustrate not what HE thought of Obama, but what Obama has said about his own beliefs. He deliberately went to people who actually knew Obama, he brought out the people who were the major influences in his life. He let Obama’s own words speak for himself. He was trying to let his audience discover who Obama is as a person - what his political beliefs are - who were his major mentors - all through Obama’s own words and the testimony of the mentors themselves.
If D’Souza had gone after the birth certificate issue, I think it would have made it too easy for people to turn away and say this is just a hit piece from a bigoted right-wing nut. I’m not saying the birth certificate issue isn’t important, I just think had that been a major part of the film a lot of people would not have gone to see it.
Unlike the Anita Hill book by Brock, D’Souza’s film does not leave one with warm fuzzies for Obama, it leaves you with a very disturbing sense of dread about him. That’s a big difference.
His mom may be too Communist for her 2nd husband but I think that her bigger issue is that she enjoys being used.
Both. I am sure.
Like most of the posters, there were few new facts that were presented to me in the film. However, I was fascinated by d’Souza’s thesis and was able to ‘connect the dots’ for the first time.
For instance, just how did his time in Indonesia affect his life path? It occurred to me watching the film that Indonesia was where Ann Dunham made a crucial choice about how her son was to be raised. She could have allowed an increasingly pro-American and pro-capitalist living and present stepfather influence him in the real society of Indonesia. Instead, she would take him to where she could make him an acolyte to the memory of an absent and dead father whom she fashioned in the mind of her son as a martyr to class struggle and anti-imperialism. In other words, Obama’s worldview was shaped as a result of an act of child abuse-substituting a needed father figure for the slight comfort of a mother’s delusion.
It’s actually playing in Scott’s valley. Color me shocked.
I thought it was a good film. What was particularly persuasive was that D’Souza used Obama’s own words against him.
I also saw it in NYC...moved here about three months ago. There weren’t many attendees - about 30 in a theater that could have seated 250.
D’Souza was the consumate gentleman. He could have touched on. Lot more sensitive issues and outright lies perpuated by the Obama administration. He explained the reasons for Obma’s political ideologies but I wish they would have dug into the Frank Marshall Davis a lot deeper. Much is still unknown as what propelled the Manchurian Candidate into power to destroy the U.S. I think his relationship with FMD would explain much if studied in depth.
I deliberately went to a 4:35 PM showing yesterday (Sunday, Sept. 2) because I had other things to do later. So there was not a very big crowd. The audience was a mix of ages, from groups of teenagers through young adults to gray heads. It was in a large theater, so they are expecting big crowds in the evening, even though it is a liberal area. And the movie has already been running for at least a week in several large area theaters, and will continue.
The movie itself was quite dramatic and revealing, connecting many (but not all) of the dots in obama’s background and life to show the picture of what he really is—A WRECKER!!!! We have got to defeat obama and as many other Democrats as possible, to reverse the damage and even to repeal obamacare.
After the movie was over, a rather well-dressed woman about 30 came out of the theater, and took a picture of the poster for the movie with her camera-phone. So I imagine that that picture will show up in her Twitter feed/Facebook page/blog or whatever social media she has, or at least in e-mails to her friends encouraging them to see the movie. Good!!!!
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