Posted on 07/09/2012 8:33:15 AM PDT by pgyanke
A woman celebrating the weekend before her 25th birthday was fatally shot Sunday when she hugged an off-duty police officer while dancing at a party, causing the officers service weapon to fire, according to police and her mother.
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According to Stephens, the woman embraced the officer from behind, causing the holstered weapon to accidently discharge. The bullet punctured Millers lung and hit her heart, and she died at a hospital.
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You could do some research before being wrong...but then you wouldn’t get to express your biases.
Detroit PD carries M&Ps.
I bet circular saws scare the hell out of you. They don’t have a safety either. Not even on the trigger.
Luckily, I know how to use tools, so I don’t have to live in fear of an inanimate object like some do.
Detroit Free Press said it was a .40 S&W.
“Revolvers are tried and true.They dont go off without help and they dont jam.”
Wrong, and wrong.
A: No gun “goes off” without help, unless it has a mechanical defect.
B: Since you lump all “revolvers” together, I feel the need to inform you that only “modern” revolvers have firing pin blocks. Drop one of your trusty “revolvers” and see if it goes off.
C: Unless you put preserves in it, no weapon “jams.” Try cycling your revolver when you have a primer pop. Here’s a hint...the entire gun locks up, and no drill will clear it usually. Primer setback or getting a projectile hung up on the forcing cone will stop a revolver dead, and then the only way to get it functioning is by disassembling it.
D: Either is an acceptable choice for a self defense weapon. Those who have weak hands or are mechanically inept may find the revolver more to their liking.
Oh. A little touchy this morning are we? Lol
Welcome to FR
“Those who have weak hands or are mechanically inept may find the revolver more to their liking.”
That sounds like a slight on revolver users and I didn’t mean for it to be. I’m only prejudiced towards poor quality weapons. I own a few revolvers myself and have always liked them. I have a Smith 640 that is a great pocket gun, and goes with me when I don’t feel like putting on the belt/holster/mag carrier/etc.
I have never had a primer pop on any revolver I ever owned.
I have never had one fire from being dropped.
I will stick to my revolver, and wish you luck with whatever it is you like.
Thats it,,, no more hugs for cops...
So...you were wrong?
Well, lets change the subject then. I’m sorry I exposed your biases.
In which case the thumb safety would have to be disengaged and the grip safety held, and the trigger pressed.
Or it may have been the more common police issue Glock that only requires the trigger to be pressed, the "safety" being a toggle on the face of the trigger.
As long as you carry, it doesn’t matter much what you carry.
But if you’re spreading erroneous information that can affect people’s choice of what they use to protect themselves...someone should speak up.
Revolvers are not fool proof. It is great that you’ve never had one lock up on you...if you’re anything like the average gun owner you put a box through it when you bought it and it has sat since. That’s like a guy saying “well I’ve never had a flat tire.” Well, you must not drive much. And you should stop dropping your pistols.
You’ve never been murdered either. Perhaps you don’t even need a gun?
I’m not anti-revolver, I’m anti bad info.
Thanks, it’s all so new. I hope I can learn how things work around here.
True, they dont have as many bullets, but I dont plan on being around much after firing 6 rounds anyway.
‘Cause you’d be dead because the other guy had 15?
There are those who just because they
have male genes, think they are
experts on firearms.They occur even here at FR
More likely a Glock or similar pistol, than a 1911. The cocked hammer scares many who never realize a Glock is just as “cocked”, but it’s firing mechanism is hidden from view by the slide. Also the 1911 has that grip safety,,glock doesn’t.
Glocks and similar designs are notorious for discharges in holsters. Nothing wrong with the gun per se,, but they are very intolerant of a worn, sloppy, or poorly designed holster.
On the 1911, somehow the thumb safety would have had to have been brushed off, the grip safety would have had to have been pushed,,and the the trigger activated. With a glock or a clone, all that need happen is the trigger be pushed against the holster.
Shoulder holsters are almost always a very poor choice. Sweeping muzzle, poor draw. Most ranges and departments prohibit them. Really they went out with trigger shoes.
But thanks to Miama Vice, we still must endure them. If you want to be sexy, buy a real holster, and spend the money you saved on some sexy underwear.
I also have one of those Galco rigs for my 1911. I see absolutely no way a 1911 would discharge in that rig even if cocked. Both the grip safety and trigger would have to be pressed at the same time and the slide safety would have to be off as well. However if the officer was carrying a Glock and the holster was unstrapped and the strap was inside the holster and pressing on the trigger, that would perhaps cause a discharge. I don’t think the strap will reach that far however. This is all speculation without knowing more about the holster and if it was modified.
From the Detroit Free Press:Police: Detroit officer's gun kills woman in midst of hug; incident under investigation
***Betting the weapon was streamlined to an unsafe extent.***
Many years ago I bought a revolver once owned by a local cop. It had a lightened hammer spring, and a hair trigger, and I mean a HAIR TRIGGER!
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