Dreams From My Real Father

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[Lucky9teen]

Dreams from My Real Father A Story of Reds and Deception

At age 18, Barack Obama admittedly arrived at Occidental College a committed revolutionary Marxist. What was the source of Obama's foundation in Marxism? Throughout his 2008 Presidential campaign and term in office, questions have been raised regarding Barack Obama's family background, economic philosophy, and fundamental political ideology. Dreams from My Real Father is the alternative Barack Obama "autobiography," offering a divergent theory of what may have shaped our 44th President's life and politics.

In Dreams from My Real Father, Barack Obama is portrayed by a voiceover actor who chronicles Barack Obama's life journey in socialism, from birth through his election to the Presidency. The film begins by presenting the case that Barack Obama's real father was Frank Marshall Davis, a Communist Party USA propagandist who likely shaped Obama's world view during his formative years. Barack Obama sold himself to America as the multi-cultural ideal, a man who stood above politics. Was the goat herding Kenyan father only a fairy tale to obscure a Marxist agenda, irreconcilable with American values?

This fascinating narrative is based in part on 2 years of research, interviews, newly unearthed footage and photos, and the writings of Davis and Obama himself. Dreams from My Real Father weaves together the proven facts with reasoned logic and speculation in an attempt to fill-in the obvious gaps in Obama's history. Is this the story Barack Obama should have told, revealing his true agenda for "fundamentally transforming America?" Director Joel Gilbert concludes, "The 'Birthers' have been on a fool's errand. To understand Obama's plans for America, the question is not 'Where's the Birth Certificate?,' the question is 'Who is the real father?'"

[Plummz]

I regard the notion that Stanley Ann went to Kenya as very far-fetched. Barack Obama Sr. had to work picking pinapples in 1961 just to pay for his own room and board. The notion that he had the money to burn to fly two people to Kenya and back is just ridiculous to me.

Stanley Armour Dunham and Madelyn Payne were intelligence agents with access to multiple bank accounts. They would have financed the trip to Canada and/or Kenya.

[Plummz]

It all seems rather unlikely that Davis would be Obama’s father as Stanley Anne would not have gone to Kenya to give birth if Davis were the Baby Daddy.

Why not?

This is a family that named their girl "Stanley." They told Barry he was an African prince.

If "Stanley" doesn't to really be a boy, "Obama" doesn't really have to be African. It is something dreamed up by his father.

[DiogenesLamp]

Stanley Armour Dunham and Madelyn Payne were intelligence agents with access to multiple bank accounts. They would have financed the trip to Canada and/or Kenya.

Not only that, but they were secret descendants of the Rockefellers and the Bilderbergs.

[Plummz]

Cite, please?

Also please cite your notion that there is even a family called "the Bilderbergs."

Thanks.

[jjotto]

hehe

The Bilderberg name comes from a Dutch hotel, not because Biderbergerss were actually relatives...

[DiogenesLamp]

Not only that, but they were secret descendants of the Rockefellers and the Bilderbergs.

Cite, please?

Also please cite your notion that there is even a family called "the Bilderbergs."

Thanks.

My point was to give you a gentle nudge in the direction of realizing that you are staking out a claim in nut territory. Unless the evidence is overwhelming and concrete, it serves no useful purpose to postulate secret cabals at the heart of this issue, including connections to the CIA.

[Plummz]

Thank you for retracting your false statements. Try not to derail discussion with false spam in the future.

[Plummz]

Back on topic, the film in question, "Dreams From my real father" details the evidence that Stanley Armour Dunham was an intelligence agent. Perhaps if you familiarized yourself with what is being discussed, you could have an intelligent on-topic discussion rather than digressing into pointless untrue spam.

Additionally, there is plenty of evidence out there about the Dunham family's multiple bank accounts under multiple names and the sensitive information Madelyn Dunham had access to at the banks where she worked.

Thus, Stanley Armour Dunham and Madelyn Payne were intelligence agents with access to multiple bank accounts. They would have financed the trip to Canada and/or Kenya.

Therefore, your contention that any trip to Kenya would have been financed by Barak Sr's pineapple picking is erroneous and false. Repeating such a claim in the future could be taken as evidence that you seek to spread disinformation.

[DiogenesLamp]

Thank you for retracting your false statements. Try not to derail discussion with false spam in the future.

Now if you'd just retract the bullsh*t you are selling, we'd be even, Right?

[DiogenesLamp]

Thus, Stanley Armour Dunham and Madelyn Payne were intelligence agents with access to multiple bank accounts. They would have financed the trip to Canada and/or Kenya.

And this is the part of your assertion that I object to the most. Why do you accept the notion that just because they might have been able to afford it they would have paid for it? You do know they were living in a spare house rented to them by the owner of that furniture store?

Sure, while sitting on a ton of CIA money, you live in a rental house so as not to blow your cover, but then you pay for a pleasure trip for two to Kenya?

Nonsense.

Therefore, your contention that any trip to Kenya would have been financed by Barak Sr's pineapple picking is erroneous and false. Repeating such a claim in the future could be taken as evidence that you seek to spread disinformation.

I already take it as a given that anyone invoking the CIA is already attempting to spread disinformation. This is straight out loon territory and it makes the rest of us who are trying to examine this issue seriously look like kooks. They point at you folk and call all of us nuts! It puts us right up there with the "Government has UFO technology" and the "Moon landing didn't happen" nuts.

You want to assert a Kenyan birth? Fine, just show a reasonable hypothesis for how such a thing might have happened. Leave off the CIA theory unless you have D@mn good proof for it, and whimsical speculation doesn't count.

[SvenMagnussen]

Adoptions are not instantaneous. The Soetoro adoption was finalized after U.S. Immigration officials inquired as to the legal status of Obama’s parentage. Consequently, the Immigration officer noted Stanley Ann shouldn’t be granted special consideration as a parent with a child separated from her foreigner husband because BHO Sr. was still, legally, considered the father of BHO II.

Eventually, the Soetoro adoption was finalized and the Original Long Form BC was sealed and archived. The Original Long Form BC is legally void and can only be used for genealogy.

[Plummz]

I already take it as a given that anyone invoking the CIA is already attempting to spread disinformation.

You are the only person on this thread that has mentioned the CIA. So, why are you attempting to spread disinformation?

[Plummz]

The Soetoro adoption was finalized after U.S. Immigration officials inquired as to the legal status of Obama’s parentage.

When do you think this happened exactly?

Are you precluding the possibility the adoption was done through Indonesian courts rather than US courts?

BHO Sr. was still, legally, considered the father of BHO II.

"Still," being when, exactly? What is your cite for this unsubstantiated claim? We know from the Soetoro divorce documents in Hawaii that Barry was considered Soetoro's son by Hawaii courts as late as when Barry was in college.

[Plummz]

The Soetoro adoption was finalized after U.S. Immigration officials inquired as to the legal status of Obama’s parentage.

When do you think this happened exactly?

Are you precluding the possibility the adoption was done through Indonesian courts rather than US courts?

BHO Sr. was still, legally, considered the father of BHO II.

"Still," being when, exactly? What is your cite for this unsubstantiated claim? We know from the Soetoro divorce documents in Hawaii that Barry was considered Soetoro's son by Hawaii courts as late as when Barry was in college.

[DiogenesLamp]

You are the only person on this thread that has mentioned the CIA. So, why are you attempting to spread disinformation?

Not true. You mentioned them by implication.

"Stanley Armour Dunham and Madelyn Payne were intelligence agents with access to multiple bank accounts. They would have financed the trip to Canada and/or Kenya."

Your attempt to distance yourself from this statement strikes me as an effort to spread disinformation, but perhaps you were talking about intelligence Agents of a DIFFERENT sort, such as NSA? If so, it is merely a sophistic dodge of the point.

Further, it makes no difference what kind of intelligence agents you claim they were, it would have been the opposite of "intelligence" to pay for a pleasure trip to Kenya for two, while living in a rental house. It would be in fact, a very stupid thing to do.

[Plummz]

Not true.

Absolutely true. The above is a false statement on your part. You would do well to retract along with with your previous false statements.

The film at discussion in this thread posits that Stanley Armour Dunham was working for U.S. Air Force intelligence. Do you have any specific, cogent criticisms of the film on this point? Such would be beneficial to an on-topic discussion rather than your previous insults and spam.

There is also U.S. Army intelligence, the KGB, and MI6 to name a few other possibilities.

The trip to birth the baby outside of Hawaii would have been business, rather than pleasure. This is another faulty assumption in your rant.

Finally, one should note that intelligence agents by nature do not create a high profile. It would be silly to expect an intelligence agent seeking a low profile to live profligately. That would be a very stupid thing to do. Yet another bone-headed assumption in your attempted reasoning.

[DiogenesLamp]

Absolutely true. The above is a false statement on your part. You would do well to retract along with with your previous false statements.

The film at discussion in this thread posits that Stanley Armour Dunham was working for U.S. Air Force intelligence. Do you have any specific, cogent criticisms of the film on this point? Such would be beneficial to an on-topic discussion rather than your previous insults and spam.

There is also U.S. Army intelligence, the KGB, and MI6 to name a few other possibilities.

The trip to birth the baby outside of Hawaii would have been business, rather than pleasure. This is another faulty assumption in your rant.

Finally, one should note that intelligence agents by nature do not create a high profile. It would be silly to expect an intelligence agent seeking a low profile to live profligately. That would be a very stupid thing to do. Yet another bone-headed assumption in your attempted reasoning.

Done with you too. Have fun playing in your world.

[Plummz]

You forgot to retract your false statement.

[RummyChick]

“There is also U.S. Army intelligence, the KGB, and MI6 to name a few other possibilities. “

OSS formed right as Stanley was enlisting in the Army.

It is very common for the CIA to recruit former military members. Formally - or informally.

Colby directed covert operations in Indonesia. He set up a program similar to Operation Phoenix in Vietnam. The Embassy and the CIA put together kill lists.

Lolo Soetoro was called back from his training at East-West (a CIA training ground according to a person heavily involved in Operation Phoenix) right as the coup about to take place.

Ann went back to Indonesia right as the East Timor invasion was about to take place...with the help of the US

Ann and her father and mother was Spooked up.....