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Obama knew about Gun Walking in March, 2009
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Posted on 06/20/2012 8:29:28 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear

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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

http://www.atf.gov/press/releases/2009/06/063009-speech-atf-ad-melson-remarks-firearms-summit.pdf


41 posted on 06/20/2012 9:26:25 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: Texas Songwriter

Hey, they can still keep running the paper shredders in the West wing for another week before Congress does the vote...

If I was the head of the United States Marshalls, I would RIGHT NOW be hitting up a Federal Judge somewhere for warrants!

The evidence is overwhelming.

If ANY ONE OF US sent even as much as a BB GUN across the border to the drug cartels, we’d be called a TERRORIST and locked up in a DHS shithole so deep we’d have to dig down to see the sky!

And the media would have a field day comparing us to another shoe bomber or some other crap...

I don’t get too excited about politics anymore, but this one has me hot!

Heads should be rolling, and if Congress and the Courts don’t do something, they are complicit!


42 posted on 06/20/2012 9:28:38 PM PDT by djf ("There are more old drunkards than old doctors." - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: dragnet2
dragnet2: “When media starts doing their nightly news, and connects or alleges all these dead people were killed with U.S. guns, it's an excuse for a controlling U.S. Government to enact much stricter gun laws.”

Ah, now I understand, and there's the rub. That's exactly the sort of devious thing a leftist would do, because we know winning is the only thing that matters to them. How one wins, to them, is irrelevant so long as one wins. Unfortunately, no one can prove (at this time) this was the Obama Administration's goal. We know they hate guns. That's a given. It's also probably not difficult to prove they let American guns fall into Mexican hands. What is difficult is proving the end goal.

I'm all for informing people, but I don't see what we can do about this politically at this time. President Obama does what he wants. The only recourse is impeachment, which the senate will never support.

43 posted on 06/20/2012 9:32:12 PM PDT by CitizenUSA (Why celebrate evil? Evil is easy. Good is the goal worth striving for.)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

WOW....he is SOOOO full of it....”ADS” instead of MORALS! Guns only for the ELITES....


44 posted on 06/20/2012 9:38:58 PM PDT by goodnesswins (What has happened to America?)
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To: CitizenUSA

I’m not sure impeachment is the only option.

Impeachment covers his political status as President. But if he commits a crime, he’s no different then you or I or anybody else. He can still be charged in the courts, afaik.


45 posted on 06/20/2012 9:40:31 PM PDT by djf ("There are more old drunkards than old doctors." - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: CitizenUSA

Easy.

Obama had already made a well known promise to the Brady Bunch (Brady Anti Gun group) that he had plans to do what he could to help advance their agenda.

This whole thing was orchestrated in order to create a problem supposedly originating in America and American gun suppliers,

which would then be a pretext Obama could point to in order to pass more anti-gun legislation, and essentially re-instate the Brady Assault weapons ban law. Probably even more stricter as he’d have a phony “crisis” he could exploit.

So he created this problem by having the government acquire guns and let them be trafficked to criminals in Mexico, so that he could say “Here’s the problem, it’s originating in the US, and we need to clamp down on gun rights to fix it.”

And it would have been far harsher than the original Brady bill/Assault weapons bans. Look what his solution was for the 10% of people who didn’t have health care. You are damn certain it would be worse.


46 posted on 06/20/2012 9:45:22 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

I do remember Hillary taking about this and the “illegal” guns crossing the border and causing problems in Mexico. Her take was we need more gun laws. I sure hope someone can find the video the OP is looking for. Hillary is part of this scandal.


47 posted on 06/20/2012 9:46:06 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: djf

I agree that the shredders have been well oiled and are moving like a chain saw. But.....I have to believe Issa already has those 1300 documents which he demands. There is someone on the inside feeding copies of these documents. Of course a shredding session is violation of the law. This is a lawless bunch, but I do know each document in numbered and dated. We know they will have existed. I know I could be wrong. These people are professional prevaricators. They are coverup artists. But they are also sloppy. Witness the April ‘birth certificate’. They are also thinking about how to avoid a prison sentence. This group will, I think, fragment and the lower level people, not wanting to go to prison, will be flipped and give up Obama and Holder. Napolitano, herself, seems to be in need of an Issa rectal examination. She has obviously known about this since 2009, and has had the balls to say the people we need to be most afraid of are right wing conservative elements of society, even as she signs off on the new Obama proceedures on gun running. It looks like Hildabeast was referenced in this swaree put out by Snoops. This should carry heavy duty prison time. Hell they just tried Roger-the-dogger in the penetentiary for taking a shot in the butt. Now, lets see what they have to say about this video. The thing is, I don’t think they have gotten their stories straight. I think Holder got the signature by obama without Obama getting leagal council from anyone but Holder. They are like ‘peas-n-carrots’, to quote Forrest Gump. Their luck may have just run out. Lord, I pray it is so.


48 posted on 06/20/2012 9:48:43 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter (Ia)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

Wow! Murder, perjury, and conspiracy. If this isn’t enough to impeach Obama and send a large number of these people to prison nothing will ever be.


49 posted on 06/20/2012 9:48:52 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

It is treason because he was scheming against his fellow US citizens to deny them their constitutional rights.

It is also a violation of his oath to defend the Constitution. He was hoping to severely limit if not eliminate citizens’ 2nd Amendment rights.

It may have had a chance of working if that one US border partrol agent hadn’t been murdered by a gun the DOJ allowed to be trafficked to Mexico to exacerbate the problem THEY were creating to provide them a “gun crisis” that they would then claim required them to strip the 2nd Amendment away and basically give Mrs. Brady the big O she’s been waiting for all these years.


50 posted on 06/20/2012 9:50:08 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: dragonblustar

I posted the link for this on my FB page.


51 posted on 06/20/2012 9:50:54 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

And now, add in lying to Congress, and the abuse of executive privilege to cover up evidence (that Nixon couldn’t use, in the end) and the whole coverup itself.

They’re all stewing in deep kimchee and I believe they will go down for this.

The race card ain’t going to work on something of this magnitude. The Race Card has been used to often, and it is now being declined anywhere it is whipped out.


52 posted on 06/20/2012 9:53:02 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: CitizenUSA

“””Unfortunately, no one can prove (at this time) this was the Obama Administration’s goal.”””

On July 12, 2011, Sen. Grassley and Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., wrote Attorney General Eric Holder, whose Justice Department oversees ATF. They asked Holder whether officials in his agency discussed how “Fast and Furious could be used to justify additional regulatory authorities.”

So far, they have not received a response. CBS News asked the Justice Department for comment and context on ATF emails about Fast and Furious and Demand Letter 3, but officials declined to speak with us.

“In light of the evidence, the Justice Department’s refusal to answer questions about the role Operation Fast and Furious was supposed to play in advancing new firearms regulations is simply unacceptable,” Rep. Issa told CBS News.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31727_162-57338546-10391695/documents-atf-used-fast-and-furious-to-make-the-case-for-gun-regulations/?tag=re1.channel


53 posted on 06/20/2012 9:56:37 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: jcsjcm

This needs to go the Rush, Hannity, and Levin. Hannity will be on this like white on rice. Levin will dissect it from a legal standpoint. It could be more than Mark can stand.


54 posted on 06/20/2012 9:56:53 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter (Ia)
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To: CitizenUSA

F&F has already resulted in a new firearms regulation. Dealers in border states are required to report purchases of 5 or more rifles to the ATF.


55 posted on 06/20/2012 9:57:08 PM PDT by Nachoman (I HOPE we CHANGE presidents.)
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To: Texas Songwriter

Well, I’ve heard a number of references to there being someone on the inside who’s funneling out info.

And hasn’t the administration lately been screaming bloody murder about leaks?

Somebody got the goods. Let’s hope they can’t be bought or “disappeared”!


56 posted on 06/20/2012 9:58:40 PM PDT by djf ("There are more old drunkards than old doctors." - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: CitizenUSA

Documents: ATF used “Fast and Furious” to make the case for gun regulations

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31727_162-57338546-10391695/documents-atf-used-fast-and-furious-to-make-the-case-for-gun-regulations/?tag=re1.channel


57 posted on 06/20/2012 10:03:29 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

Does anyone except me remember a woman that asked Obama about what it would do about guns. He answered**We are doing things under the radar.....He was definately talking about (as Fast and Furious). Didn’t think he would get caught, but he was doing something below the radar and we all know what it was.....at the time I though that was a strange answer, thats why I haven’t forgotten it...


58 posted on 06/20/2012 10:06:31 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: djf

It looks like Napolitano outted Holder/Obama because Obama wanted to spike this football. He did not see his nuts being gnawed off because he wanted credit...he wanted to gloat....he ‘be stylin in he enzone’. He cannot help himself. He wants adoration and he is too stupid or reckless to forsee the danger of his own haughtiness.


59 posted on 06/20/2012 10:12:12 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter (Ia)
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. . . . Article and comments. Whew!

Thanks, hoosiermama.

60 posted on 06/20/2012 10:14:21 PM PDT by LucyT
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