Obama attorneys argue he's not Dem nominee (Klayman Florida NBC ballot challenge)

WND ^ | June 18, 2012 | Unattributed

[Seizethecarp]

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. – Attorneys arguing on behalf of Barack Obama’s re-election plans today urged a Florida judge to decide that Obama is not yet the Democratic nominee for president and ignore evidence challenging his eligibility.

The arguments were raised by attorney Mark Herron on behalf of Obama in a hearing before Judge Terry Lewis in Florida, who is best known for presiding over the 2000 Bush v. Gore election dispute.

Lewis is credited with making crucial rulings in the contested 2000 presidential election when ultimately a Florida recount was halted by the U.S. Supreme Court, and George W. Bush was declared the winner.

Herron argued the Florida process affirms only that Obama is the choice in the state’s presidential preference primary but is not necessarily the party’s nominee for president.

But the judge noted that the party wrote to Florida’s secretary of state a letter indicating Obama’s name was the only one submitted, and he thought the state’s electors were bound to vote for him.

[null and void]

Can you imagine the resources the Democrats will have to spend in educating the average Flori-DUH voter who can't mark a butterfly ballot on how to actually do a write-in?

I imagine it would end up like Alaska, where any conceivable variation of "Murkowski", the party favorite's name, counted as a vote for her.

I imagine a legal system that would allow Mickey Mouse and Adolf Hitler to register to vote democrat can be VERY flexible getting their candidate "elected".

No matter how many recounts it takes...

[Seizethecarp]

This was not an evidentiary hearing so no evidence could be “proved up” (having been previously subjected to “discovery” equally by both sides).

Klayman's pending amended motion (as instructed by the judge) will include a list of evidence pointing to a non-US birth and also request for a discovery order and a hearing on that evidence as part of an eligibility hearing, IIRC.

[tacticalogic]

Obama's attorney's basically argued there is no opportunity for any court to review the eligibility of the nominee of a party for president.

Rope-a-Dope.

[livius]

Both the visit to his grandmother and her death right before the election were a little suspicious. She was a “typical white person,” according to him (even though she seems to have brought him up and paid all his bills), so maybe she was expendable.

[snowsislander]

Let's hope for the best. This appears to be a good judge, one willing to deal with difficult situations.

It certainly seems less than responsive to argue that the candidate's eligibility is irrelevant: it would be far simpler to quash the whole issue with clear and unequivocal evidence.

I would assume that such evidence simply doesn't exist.

As to the Kenyan Clown's lawyers arguing that he's not yet a candidate, that's a stupid and obtuse argument. He's already appeared on a Florida ballot in the primary election; it is perfectly fair to challenge that appearance on the ballot if he's not an eligible candidate. This type of challenge has been upheld before, and candidates have been removed from ballots because of prima facie ineligibility to be elected.

[Forty-Niner]

Throw him off the ballot first and let him prove he is eligible to get back on.

[Mr. K]

So the judge should say “OK then, IF he becomes Dem. candidate I want to see a real birth certificate AND his parents, to determine eligibility, and see if he was born here, or if his parents were NOT US CITIZENS at the time of his birth”

Put it right back on the defense lawyers to put up or shut up- don't let them weasel out of it with this.

[thecodont]

Thanks for the ping!

[MHGinTN]

I have this mean streak in me that wants the election to be one day away and the facts hit the news cycle proving little barry bastard commie was born ‘not in the USofA and his mother was not married at the time of his birth ‘there’, and he is proven ineligible with no time for the democrat criminal enterprise to replace the lying bastard on the ballots. I want the leftist heads exploding all across the land with that one. Oh yeah, the day before the elections is the day for the real certification of live birth and name placed on the certificate two days later to be exposed. Steven Bernard Dunham will have a nervous breakdown and be found huddling in a corner of the Lincoln Bedroom, whispering Larry’s name, whimpering.

[kevkrom]

Could be that it's a "Standard Legal Tactic" but those same lawyers are going to back in this same court once Obama in nominated so what have they really gained? I don't buy it.

Did you learn nothing at all from 2008? Delay, delay, delay. Run out the clock. By the time this is resolved, appealed, delayed, appealed, delayed again, etc., the election (and subsequent certification by Congress) will be over, and then the suits no longer have standing because it's Congress' job to enforce elections certifications, so it's no longer a court issue. (This is why all of the eligibility challenges to date have failed.)

More to the point, as long as Obama can get his name on the ballot and keep it there until election day, through stalling and delaying, it won't matter one whit what the finding of the court eventually turns out to be. That's why they're going to drag their feet and delay every step of the way.

[GeorgeWashingtonsGhost]

Perhaps he’s the son of Malcolm X which could explain the ‘Mal’ in Malia Obama.